How to kill a tree undetected?
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Hypothetically speaking, let's pretend my neighbor has a huge honey locust right next to my fence and garden, sucking water from and shading my garden, and dropping pods in my garden so I have little locust trees coming up as weeds in my garden. If that were to happen, what would be the best way for that tree to accidentally die?
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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they make good firewood. offer to cut it up for him. after the stump is two or three years old and you routinely cut anything that grows up out of it, cut as level with the ground as you can. bury it in charcoal and light it. will burn several days but stump and all will be gone. fill the hole with a few bucket fulls of dirt
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Just poor a lot of roundup at the base of the tree. it will kill it, diesel fuel would probably do the same.
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Tordon RTU works awesome too! Tordon is how we kill out Honey Locust trees in the pasture, but keep in mind that Tordon does translocate through the roots into the soil so more than likely you will have negative effects on other desirable vegetation including your garden. I would explain the situation to the neighbor and offer to help cut it up, if that doesnt work explain that you are going to remove anything hanging on your side of the property line.
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Tordon is how we kill out Honey Locust trees in the pasture, but keep in mind that Tordon does translocate through the roots into the soil so more than likely you will have negative effects on other desirable vegetation including your garden.
I would explain the situation to the neighbor and offer to help cut it up, if that doesnt work explain that you are going to remove anything hanging on your side of the property line.[/quote] tried many things on mine,,,big multipliers....can u be specific? pm if u like.
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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A few copper nails will do the job.
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Hypothetically speaking, one large beaver or two. And when the job is finished, offer to trap the "nuisance" beavers at a discounted rate.
Talk with your hypothetical neighbor.... If that fails, then unleash the beavers.
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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A few copper nails will do the job. OK everyone keeps saying use copper nails. Next question WHERE do you buy copper nails ???????
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Talk to the Neighbor ...or move the garden. This^^^^^ Geeze, it seems being neighborly is a lost art.
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Was that link a joke LAtrapper? Or just an "oops"?
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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A few copper nails will do the job. OK everyone keeps saying use copper nails. Next question WHERE do you buy copper nails ??????? Anyone???????
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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I thought it was a repost by Gary when I first saw this post. Maybe it is?
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Buy a junk truck strong enough to cause mortal damage to tree when backed into. Modify brakes on truck so they don't work well. Back truck up to garden at an unsafe overconfident speed. Brace for impact, call insurance company.
For added effect do it while your garden is planted and doing well so you can show some disappointment with what happened. Or grow a giant pumpkin in the area of the tree so you would have an excuse for bringing a big truck into the area at the end of growing season. this is a solid idea.
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Be sure to offer to get him another tree, like an Ash or something, or fruit tree, and plant it as a replacement. A lil farther off the property line of course. Trees are cheap.
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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She is a crotchety old gal...won't allow anything that might benefit someone else. She has rhubarb plants, she doesn't use it, but won't let anybody else have any either. Her plants. Her choice. She also has iris growing all over that would benefit by being thinned out but again, she says they're just fine. Ain't nobody gonna get anything of hers.
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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LAtrapper, although your link doesn't bring up the previous thread, I also remember it. It got pretty much the same recommendations from copper hails to Roundup to talk to the neighbor. Probably posted by the same person but I don't know for sure. New link- How to Kill a Bradford Pear
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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That was me. Still looking for them "copper" nails I've seen them, can't remember where....maybe it was at the home depot.
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Talk to the Neighbor ...or move the garden. It's his property and he has the right to grow whatever the heck he wants to on it. Every bit as much as you have the right to grow the plants in your garden. If the neighbor likes the tree, you are limited to cutting the branches where they cross your property line.
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Hypothetically speaking, let's pretend my neighbor has a huge honey locust right next to my fence and garden, sucking water from and shading my garden, and dropping pods in my garden so I have little locust trees coming up as weeds in my garden. If that were to happen, what would be the best way for that tree to accidentally die? I have that situation, except they are tall cottonwoods, several of them, not locust. Oh well, my garden gets afternoon sun.
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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I have 4 honey locust trees in my yard. They drop a lot of branches when it's windy. Hummingbirds really like their blossoms. I would never plant them. They were there when I bought the place.
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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[/quote] That was me. Still looking for them "copper" nails [/quote] One source of copper nails, 2d to 40d- Copper Nails There are many more places that sell them..
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Might not want to open this can of worms but property lines go straight up....so anything over your line (in the air) is your's to do what you want to with. Be careful with this it is not entirely true everywhere and not in MN for sure. You can legally trim the tree to the property line BUT you cannot cause unreasonable damage to the tree either. Before you kill someones mature tree think on this, the replacement cost of that tree is likely $30,000 plus dollars, if you get caught and sued you will be crucified in court so dont put your families well being at risk over a tree if you cannot afford to! Copper nails will do nothing but create a hazard for the poor chap who has to cut it down someday please do not pound a pile of nails into it! Even if you do and owner has a arborist inspect the tree he will see what happened and you will be on the hook for replacement. My advice is to hire a Arborist to trim the tree back over the property line as much as possible. Occasionally someone will ask me how to kill a tree that is causing damage to septic/house but the CITY will not let them remove the tree, in these instances I recommend digging down near the base of a large root, drill a small hole and drip Tordon into it during cool early morning while the tree is up taking water, obviously recover the spot that was drilled with dirt, tree will be dead shortly. Again I do not advise doing that to your neighbors tree!
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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If you sprayed Roundup on the branches that are on your side of the fence, would that kill the whole tree ? That will kill the grass in your yard
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Was the tree there before you and your garden? Well yes, but the tree isn't growing a garden....the dang pods fall on my property and seed my garden with locust trees.
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Talk to the Neighbor ...or move the garden. It's his property and he has the right to grow whatever the heck he wants to on it. Every bit as much as you have the right to grow the plants in your garden. If the neighbor likes the tree, you are limited to cutting the branches where they cross your property line. I'mma do that Liberal thing and claim eminent domain because my interest is more important than her interest. It's got to go. I'll give that goldarn tree an abortion....that should be acceptable to a Liberal.
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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chainsaw. cut it after he leaves and tell him when he returns that a tree service mistakenly cut it and left and you have no idea who the where....
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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The easy way, simply buy the neighbors property, cut down the tree, resell the property to someone you can talk to and put a "no tree planting by my garden stipulation" in the buying contract. Easy-peazy. Tried that......she won't sell. The house sits empty so her daughter can store stuff in it. She could rent it for $600/mo!!! And I mow her front lawn with my Cub Cadet and shovel her snow....so I'm not being stubborn!
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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copper nails are really old and hard to find....they are made from wire. get you some 12 gauge and strip it off then cut you some 1 to 2 inch pieces....take your handy dandy cordless drill and find a bit just the right size....imma gonna skip to the part about the nails being just under the bark in the growth layer and lots of them....tree probably wont come back next year...…...theoreticly…….
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Run a trencher down the property line and the roots wi be cut off from the tree. That also removes support from that side of the tree and will cause the tree to fall away from your property if the wind gives it a nudge.
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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There is a product used a lot in south Texas for mesquite control called Sendero. It is bragged about b/c it is mesquite specific and does not harm oak trees, elm trees, etc. It has been my experience that it is not just mesquite specific, but that it will also smoke honey locust trees. I'm guessing because both are in the bean (Fabaceae) family.
This spring I sprayed one branch of a honey locust shrub (about 8 feet tall) to see what would happen. The one branch turned yellow within a day and lost leaves soon afterward. One month later, the whole shrub was yellow and now it has lost all of its leaves. Next spring will determine for sure if the locust is dead or not, but it has been my experience that this product kills locust trees much more easily than mesquites. The kill also depends if the plant has been shredded or mechanically manipulated in the past. A lot of noxious shrubs are small, but hey have one heckuva root system. The key is to spray the tree when it is actively growing and temperatures are warm, but before the plant starts producing and growing beans. This helps to get the chemical down into the roots.
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Run a trencher down the property line and the roots wi be cut off from the tree. That also removes support from that side of the tree and will cause the tree to fall away from your property if the wind gives it a nudge. X2
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Might not want to open this can of worms but property lines go straight up....so anything over your line (in the air) is your's to do what you want to with. Be careful with this it is not entirely true everywhere and not in MN for sure. You can legally trim the tree to the property line BUT you cannot cause unreasonable damage to the tree either. Before you kill someones mature tree think on this, the replacement cost of that tree is likely $30,000 plus dollars, if you get caught and sued you will be crucified in court so dont put your families well being at risk over a tree if you cannot afford to! Copper nails will do nothing but create a hazard for the poor chap who has to cut it down someday please do not pound a pile of nails into it! Even if you do and owner has a arborist inspect the tree he will see what happened and you will be on the hook for replacement. My advice is to hire a Arborist to trim the tree back over the property line as much as possible. Occasionally someone will ask me how to kill a tree that is causing damage to septic/house but the CITY will not let them remove the tree, in these instances I recommend digging down near the base of a large root, drill a small hole and drip Tordon into it during cool early morning while the tree is up taking water, obviously recover the spot that was drilled with dirt, tree will be dead shortly. Again I do not advise doing that to your neighbors tree! Thanks, I'm going to use this on some larger cottonwoods on my property.
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Just take a couple of 5 gallon buckets of round up and soak it in at the base of the tree. It will kill it real slow like almost like, gee I wonder why that tree is dying.
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Re: How to kill a tree undetected?
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Was the tree there before you and your garden? Well yes, but the tree isn't growing a garden....the dang pods fall on my property and seed my garden with locust trees. My,my,my,me,me,me. Are you a milinieal? Get someone to cut the limbs that hang over your property and leave your neighbors property the heck alone.
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