My sons and I are wanting learn a martial art. We're pretty interested in learning Jiu Jitsu or may Krav Maga but can't seem to find any classes for that here locally. There's a Tae Kwon Do place nearby but I'm not so sure that's what we want to practice. Tae Kwon Do looks like more like a combination of dancing, gymnastics, and someday years down the road you learn how to kick a board in half. We want to learn how to fight right away.

What's a good martial art for a man to know?

smith and wesson.

I did TKD out of high school and would encourage anyone to do the same, it teaches respect, very good self discipline & defense. Not all studios are the same so keep that in mind also.
Now that I am much older, my Glock is a better fit for me............

i've dabbled in it along with boxing over the years and physically feel confident i could protect myself but in todays world if it is for self defense that and a 1.50 will get you a cup of coffee.if it's for discipline and learning the human body and its abilities it may be for ya's.

Origami is the most useful of them I was told.

I did Krav Maga for 3 years. If you want to learn how to fight, and fight extremely effectively then I highly recommend it. It's no bs no rules straight up self defense.

Here are a few considerations:

The school, it's instructors and its focus is more important than the particular martial art. Is it a self defense school or a tournament fighting school? Many (but not all) of the TKD schools are focused on tournament fighting. I personally would avoid these because they are in it primarily for the money. All schools need to make some money but you really want a school run by someone that loves his art and loves teaching it to others. These schools often are in old run down buildings because the $ are not there for a fancy gym.

Martial arts are a perishable skill. Stop training and you will lose a lot of the capability you had.

Look for a mix of skills. Ballistic techniques (punches and kicks) are good for keeping someone off of you but many fights end up on the ground anyway. Its better not to end up there but if you do you need to have mastered some joint locks and throws in addition to the ballistic techniques. The Gracie Jiu Jitsu system has become very popular due to it's effectiveness in cage fighting. The system has absolutely earned its reputation for effectiveness in one on one situations between fighters in the same weight class. However, if you are on the ground dealing with one guy and he has a buddy, you could be more vulnerable than if on your feet. Due to the popularity of Jiu Jitsu some schools have incorporated ground fighting elements into what they teach.

Look around and visit the schools in your area. Talk with the instructors, observe a class and see what the students are doing. I trained and taught for a number of years. The school should send you home worn out after every class. If you don't train hard you are wasting your time and money. My motto for my more advanced students was "you should go home banged and bruised but never broken." If bones are getting broken safety is not a high enough priority. If you are not getting banged up some you are not training hard enough to be effective.

Modern Shotokan and good basic close contact self defense training is extremely beneficial ground work for the average individual for life skills and self preservation skills if needed.

Retention of the basic self defense and disabling skills and techniques are priceless in a dire situation that may not give you any other choice for survival or for a potential escape option. Always exercise good sense first before any offensive or defensive measures. At times this is a split second reaction or decision that makes all the difference.

After my years of training I taught these classes for many years. These skills will not be forgotten once you practice them enough to develop muscle memory of their use and technique. Spontaneous is the word. These skills are not for show off or playing with others as to their function.

I highly recommend the close encounter self defense training, leverage techniques and learning of the bodies pressure and nerve points as they are extremely effective when used by a trained individual. Some of these techniques can be deadly with enough force or they may cause great injury, blindness and debilitation to certain parts of the body.

If you train and learn well a skilled instructor can save a life for someone many years down the road if and when such a random encounter does occur and you are not armed with a firearm.

avoid risky situations, keep a little cash in one pocket and a gun in another one. a box of matches and a pocket knife. should be able to handle most any emergency

I have a cousin who is a Krav Maga instructor.

Raizmup is correct... No belts, no tournaments, no ego, no etiquette.

Not only are you taught how to fight and survive, you are taught about situational awareness and how to keep yourself out of situations where a fight would occur.

Mike

You can do a search for Gracie Ji-Jitsu or 9th Planet Jitsu. 90% of fights end up on the ground. Gracie's sell's a DVD set called Gracie Combative and bully- prof and both are good but does not replace a good instructor and classes. www.gracieacademy.com
Tae Kwon Do is also good and great for stand- up. Breaking boards is about teaching young kids they can go beyond what they think is possible and a confidence builder. Other things you mentioned are to build flexibility and build stamina through exercise.
Like any class it's only as good as the instructor. I would sit in and watch a few classes. Regardless of what you take, you will not learn to win any fight right away but you will get better every day. Six months in Gracie Ji-Jitsu and you will be well on your way.

TIA CHIA heck even Dick Vandyk can do it

Learn the Bible and develop your relationship with the Lord. Then place His guardian angels round about you for protection. If then, you fall, call on the name of the Lord Jesus who saves. Please name one individual who followed this and failed.

I should add - walk not in fear or anxiety. Rebuke Satan but walk in Gods promises.

the ones who failed are now dead and cant tell you their tale.

Isshinryu.

Bingo Danny! A little bit of paranoia can keep you alive, being oblivious to reality is very dangerous.

Well let's see, it wasn't a gardian angel that struck a giant in the head with a rock and then cut his head off. It wasn't a gardian angel that killed a thousand soldiers.

I'm with you on where to place your trust but sometimes you have to do the work.

I'm a fan of any mixed martial arts. When taught by any well trained instructor they are very effective for self defense. My kids and I are currently being trained in a combination of Muay Thai, Hapkido, and Jujitsu

Escaping or Disabling quickly a perceived would be attacker or assailant is key. Forget anything else unless you are armed and skilled. It is maim or kill or be killed no wrestling around.

Some will just be victims and that is a fact regardless of what you learn. To many variables. Some just don't wont be able to react or think quickly enough in a stress situation with fear and emotion involved.

If you get into a grappling situation with an individual your chances of survival without injury or death increases dramatically. This depends on luck and your physical ability and that of your attacker as to who gets the better of the situation.

Shorin-ryu , Akido , Shotokan , Kempo are all good solid practical systems that balance core Chi power with reasonableness in mental discipline .

With very good situational awareness training , to think ahead to avoid trouble to begin with , as well as being keen in observation with extremely effective undercurrent in auto mindset , wherever you may go.

Of course the longer one practices any style, the better they become, with good muscle memory that stays.

Good comments in other styles here, too.

Nerve and pressure points that are mentioned cannot be underestimated . I have seen large men scoff at that idea, only to be brought to their knees ,and releasing their hold on someone half their size in a second , with only two or three fingers pressure . Many of those are in the face, jaws, and neck . An advantage of knowledge over size . Then needing to know instantly what to do from there to stay alive....

Being armed is wonderful, of course, but there are times that things can happen so fast, there is no time to access anything , other than your bodily reaction to gain your personal space boundary again.

Either way, better to see and avoid the raging flood coming in the distance ,than try to swim through it in surprise.

a friend studied a few and also taught police training for a while, and when I said nah I never did any martial arts , but I wrestled in High school he said what do you think wrestling is. his emphasis was do one any one make it one that you enjoy and that there is a facility training it near by. learning more than one is ideal because once you know the form you know the next counter , but if your switching it up with multiple forms your a harder book to read.

but that if you need it your not likely to be going against anyone trained so most any will do.

75% is balance , learning your body and keeping on your feet.

now If i could find a school for it I would like to learn Fairbain-Sykes method that developed a mixed method simplifying down and mixing forms to then teach to OSS and Marine Raiders.

How about the Apostle Paul. He got his butt whipped pretty bad a couple of times as I recall.
And weren't all but one of the disciples murdered?
Stephen was stoned to death by an angry mob.
Johnathon, David's friend, was faithful to God but was killed by the enemy.


David has already been mentioned. He relied completely on God and then went hand-to-hand, stacking up dead Phillistine like cord-wood. God prepared him for battle in advance by bringing him the lion and bear to practice his fighting skills and build his confidence.

God enabled Samson with supernatural strength who then went full live Gonzo slaughtering Phillistines.

Peter was a pretty salty character. Jesus told his disciples that if they didn't have a sword then they had better go get one.

I'm all in favor of depending completely on God's strength. But God usually accomplishes his purpose through ordinary means. He sure raised up some pretty bad-to-the-bone killers throughout history.

Psalm 144:1

Praise be to the Lord my Rock,
who trains my hands for war,
my fingers for battle

Kickboxing would be a great class to take. There are fighting gyms and excercise gyms that teach it so make sure you’re in the fighting gym.

You can learn to fight right away but you are still going to lose: learning to fight and win takes time and experience. Experience is expensive, broken nose, facial scars, potential head injuries and broken bones. Suggest you learn to beef up at a gym, like cross fit. Taking a hit is as important as giving one. Most street fights last less than 90 seconds. The military teaches minimal hand to hand in about 2 weeks, they know you have less than 30 seconds to live through it. Beef up, get smart and learn to evade confrontation. learn to live to fight another day: learn to survive. Even if you win, your gonna hurt and maybe in jail for a long time.

BJJ.

I learned some basics from my old man.Strike first,fast and hard,and better to fight and get away and be around to fight another day.(in other words get the job done and get out of dodge before the cops show up).

No need for all of that broken stuff and injuries and beef up guys are the first one to quit on SEAL teams.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvbuT3mxrNY&t=24s

Beefing up did nothing for me the last time I was doing Muay Thai. Glass jaw here. One stiff shot and lights out for me. And I was about 225 and pretty cut at that point

My sons and I already in pretty good shape. I'm not bulky or muscle-bound by any means but I jog, bike, work out with dumbbells and do lots of calisthenics like push-ups, chin ups, dips, squats, situps, etc. I'm a better trapper and firefighter because of it, too. I'm never going to be an imposing physical presence - especially as I get older. And I don't think just being strong is going to automatically make us effective fighters, either.

I do eventually want to learn to take a hit. I don't want to get beat up but I think some boxing sparring or an equivalent would be great experience.

I heard that in Krav Maga, one of the first things they teach you is that "I can run faster scared than you can angry". In other words, running away is an excellent self-defense technique and should be one of the top options. I'm not looking to be a bully or to get into fights. I think most all martial arts teach you to avoid a fight whenever possible and also show you how to do that. I hate confrontation and conflict. But I want to be as prepared as possible if the need to fight comes along. Confidence for my sons and I that we can make a decent showing for ourselves if we have to is very important - whether we ever have to use it for self-defense or not. Mentally, running away because its the smart thing to do is completely different than running away out of fear when there was something worth fighting for. A brave man might die once but a coward dies a thousand times. There are worse things than dying.

There have been quite a few suggestions listed here and I thank you for them. I've never heard of most of those so if there is some reason you think they may be good options I'd be interested to know why you think they are a good option.

Unfortunately, not living close to a large population center, it seems my options are limited.

im getting older. if I have to use my hands or feet its going to have to end fast. im not trying for a knockout or pressure point. I will walk away as my first choice. if that wont work it aint gonna be pretty. no way I could trade punches with a young guy even if I was inclined to

Sadly, there's a Gracie Academy not far from where I work. But its about 50 miles from where my sons live and go to school. And this is something we need to do together. It would be completely impractical for them to train there.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the whole point of learning a martial art is to avoid having to trade punches. I don't care how good of a fighter you are, standing up face to face an exchanging blows is dangerous and stupid.

Yeah, you can enjoy your video's; 27 years combined service between the Army and the Navy (retired Navy): I turned 50 in Iraq in OIF II. I have been in over 50 countries. It takes 10 to 30 support people and a lot of technology to put in a team of door kickers (Army, Marine Navy). Do not compare the average Joe to to any military person yet alone an operator or what ever is your favorite brand/flavor of the month based on TV and youtube. Do not compare apples oranges and lemons as there are alot of 3rd world people dressed in rags with old AK's that have put a thumping on a lot of professionals since Indo-China. What I said was true. Chief Hanson USN retired.

My friend you are not wrong. In time, with training you gain the confidence and carry yourself in a way that they know to leave you alone. The point is to avoid fights and make friends. The truth is there is some very bad people out there and like a gun, it's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. Ground work is very important.
The other main point, it's fun to train and keeps you in very good shape and make new friends. For kids, it benefits them in every area in their life. Teaches to eat healthy, keeps in shape, builds confidence and list goes on.


Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the whole point of learning a martial art is to avoid having to trade punches. I don't care how good of a fighter you are, standing up face to face an exchanging blows is dangerous and stupid. [/quote]