Re: The infamous 4 yr degree.
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We had the youngest go to Wyotech for 18 months for custom car work he drives a truck today! LOL
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Re: The infamous 4 yr degree.
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08/14/18 08:19 PM
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Yup, and as a degreed engineer who worked in the nuclear power industry for 33 years before retiring, I still needed skilled craftsmen (and women) to build my house, fix my truck, put in my well and septic, and maintain all the pumps, motors, valves, etc. in the power plant. Those craftsmen had skills I did not have and are an essential component of our economy. We have convinced a generation that all they have to do is get a 4 yr degree and they can immediately have everything their parents spent 20-30 years working their butts off to accumulate.
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Re: The infamous 4 yr degree.
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I agree that many kids do not belong on a 4 year degree path. Skilled trades would suit them and society much better.
That said, I see nothing wrong with having the 4 year degree....if you can do it without massive debt.....AND a skilled trade. X2!
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Re: The infamous 4 yr degree.
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I also went to WyoTech for 6 months in 1974-75 for auto mechanics. Used the skills all my life and still do. While there, the kid selling pop and donuts at the snack bar had a 4-yr degree from University of Wyoming. In the Army, you needed a college degree to get past E-5. That was in 1984.
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Re: The infamous 4 yr degree.
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Earned a four year degree in Biology from the University of Wisconsin system. Biggest regret was stopping after 4 years. Would've, could've, should've continued on for a masters degree! Ended up serving a 5 year apprenticeship in plumbing and have since earned my Masters Plumbers certification and own a plumbing business! Nobody can take my education away, though!
Chris
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Re: The infamous 4 yr degree.
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Even better, get a business degree, then decide what you want to do. A local dentist got a business degree, then went to dental school. He is a mastermind businessman and very well-healed.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: The infamous 4 yr degree.
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08/14/18 09:09 PM
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Mike Rowe does a good job promoting technical education. I taught building construction technology for 23 years. That is a fancy name for residential carpentry. When I started we had 42 kids apply for the 32 slots. Over the years I had some outstanding students. Many went on to successful careers in building, and some in plumbing or electrical work. Many went on to two year technical collages, a few went to four year academic schools. I am still in touch with many students.
As time passed it became more and more difficult to fill all technical school programs. We did or close each year but it was a struggle. More and more kids simply do not want to work. More and more kids are so tied to computers or phones and gaming that they cannot think about working. More and more kids come from families that neither parent works and many do not have any good role models in their life. More and more kids were coming through with emotional baggage and many many with various mental disorders. Each year over those 23 year it became evident that there was a swing in the dynamics of our population.
I was working in what was a traditional blue collar community when I started. In the time I taught I witnessed at least a dozen manufacturing companies die out and close. When I started there were 6 module home plants within a 20 mile radius. All but one has shut down. Times have changed and not for the better.
During that time in education it was easy to observe the work ethic decline, and grit and or determination almost disappeared in students as a general rule. The problem was not just in technical education, it was a problem through out the academic sections of the school as well.
I still have great hopes for technical education but all educators face a tough row to hoe. Many problems in our schools and in our general population. I do not mean to sound bitter but I guess I do. It was like watching a slow leak in what used to be a good vessel.
Mac
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Re: The infamous 4 yr degree.
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Even better, get a business degree, then decide what you want to do. A local dentist got a business degree, then went to dental school. He is a mastermind businessman and very well-healed. My son has a 4 year business degree and is now in his second year of law school. He is going to do very well for himself and the way I operate it will be handy to have an attorney in the family. Zim
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Re: The infamous 4 yr degree.
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NO, NO, NO! Encourage them all to go to a 4 yr school. We need ditch diggers too, the Mexicans may not be around all that much longer.
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Re: The infamous 4 yr degree.
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Screw society and trading yrs of your life for a permission slip to work for some ungrateful thumb. It's a scam , funneling people through institutions selling over valued pipe dreams . Some of the dumbest people I know have framed papers on the wall.
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