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All this talk of heaven #6304639
08/18/18 09:23 AM
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When I gave a reply to do dogs go to heaven I remembered the teachings from my days of going to church with my grandparents. So I went to the book and did some looking. This is what I found.
And it is also what was preached in that church.
John 3:13
Ecclesiastics 9:5
1 Thessalonians 4:13-15
There are more.
When did churches stop teaching this.
I believe in GOD with all my heart and soul.
I didn't want to highjack the other thread.
I truly believe we wait for the Lords return and he will create heaven on earth

Re: All this talk of heaven [Re: wetdog] #6304643
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i understand completely and have been avoiding them posts.









Re: All this talk of heaven [Re: wetdog] #6304647
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Originally Posted By: wetdog
When I gave a reply to do dogs go to heaven I remembered the teachings from my days of going to church with my grandparents. So I went to the book and did some looking. This is what I found.
And it is also what was preached in that church.
John 3:13
Ecclesiastics 9:5
1 Thessalonians 4:13-15
There are more.
When did churches stop teaching this.
I believe in GOD with all my heart and soul.
I didn't want to highjack the other thread.
I truly believe we wait for the Lords return and he will create heaven on earth


Also Rev 20:5-6,11-15

Also Eze 37:1-14 speaks of a physical resurrection. The second resurrection.


Last edited by amspoker; 08/18/18 09:48 AM. Reason: Added comment

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Re: All this talk of heaven [Re: wetdog] #6304677
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Looks like you boys are looking in the right place for answers


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Re: All this talk of heaven [Re: pcr2] #6304685
08/18/18 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted By: pcr2
i understand completely and have been avoiding them posts.
I struggle whether to engage these posts also, but we are called to be light in the darkness so I try to sow the seeds and let God take care of the rest.

Re: All this talk of heaven [Re: wetdog] #6304702
08/18/18 10:33 AM
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Someone's going to be wrong either way, some think it's about enjoying life and doing good, others just want flog themselves to each their own.

My belief is heaven and H*&& are here and now and doing good gets you good but talking good and doing bad you need to live with all of your life unless you change your ways.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: All this talk of heaven [Re: wetdog] #6304723
08/18/18 11:12 AM
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I agree Law Dog. All men have evil in them. I for one have a darkness in me that is always just right there waiting to get out. But I have learned to control it to a point. The only good I find in my darkness is it helps me spot the darkness in others.
I try to live by this.
What man can call himself a man if he does not try to make the world a better place.

Re: All this talk of heaven [Re: Law Dog] #6304725
08/18/18 11:15 AM
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I was born and raised in Gregory County, SD and my father moved to AR when I was 16. I have a cousin at Muredo (?Spelling) that is the state brand inspector for that area.

I too, thought exactly like you until I was 32. Then, I discovered, I could never have been bad enough to keep be out of Heaven and I could never be good enough to get into Heaven.

Yes, there is a Heaven & (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman). Yes, we inherit our physical features from our ancestors and we also inherit a fallen nature, (character trait) called a sin nature from them. It is also made into the heart of man to know there is a true, one and only, Holy God.

There is a principal, if someone is asking spiritual question(s) or is seeking after God, God is at work in that individual's life drawing him/them to Him.

The next time we have a family reunion in SD I would enjoy talking with you. My grandparents homesteaded and several of the 9 children went to school in a sod school house.

You can read about that time period and them in the Saga of Sulley Flats.

May my God richly bless and protect you until you have worked through discovering the truth.

TrapperKent

Re: All this talk of heaven [Re: wetdog] #6304730
08/18/18 11:32 AM
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I don't think it's possible to hijack threads like these. So much ignorance laced curiosity out there that your gonna get 10 different answers or opinions. Sometimes you have to deal with each and every one of them. Combine that with all the confusion that's been created by outright defiance against God through other religions.

And your bound to have an uphill fight regardless of the thread title.

My thoughts

1. Engage every opportunity your given because your called to do so.
2. Don't make God small and limited because He isn't small and He has no limitations!
3. Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God

My personal problem is debate at hand in order to keep truth present. By debating just to be right. A lot of times I find myself debating just to be right. In turn loosing the intended impact of message to those who are just watching. I think credibility is lost when that occurs to those who pick up on that. A lot of time in a debate my intent is not to convince the opposition. Just give the other side so word of God has chance to plant seed somewhere. I often wonder who these internet post reach?

People are interested in this and want genuine answers. They may never post here. But are watching! If they are sincerely looking for the truth? And u are posting it for the right reasons? They know it weather you realize it or not!

Lots of folks that believe don't like to talk about all the tabloid or supernatural stuff because it seems unbelievable and may confuse or turn away otherwise baby Christians. But all u have to do is look at the types of movies being produce and I'll think u will see the human mind is ready to digest all that.

Re: All this talk of heaven [Re: wetdog] #6304732
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There are countries who filter this stuff out! Because of their distain for God and the damage that Gospel has on their control of population.

During our revolution the pastor's were directly blamed for our uprising! In turn called the black robe regiment and hunted down both here and in our home lands

Re: All this talk of heaven [Re: wetdog] #6304733
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Anywhere the true Gospel is allowed to prevail. People gain freedom!!

I'm not talking state controlled or organized religion. I'm talking shucked to the cob Individual Bible thumping!

Re: All this talk of heaven [Re: wetdog] #6304734
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Lol

It's also why we have "separation of church and state". As in" our fed govt can't declare a federal religion and make laws that limit our religious liberty.

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See the rabbit trails?


Sorry to hijack

Re: All this talk of heaven [Re: wetdog] #6304738
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i've certainly seen a lot worse topics to talk about in this market. wink









Re: All this talk of heaven [Re: wetdog] #6304778
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Lots of abuse of religions lots of people you see hedging their bets as they get older trying to get a seat on that bus to the promised lands I see it more and more as I get older. A guy who never went to church in the last 50 years sending you Jesus memes when he hits 60.


People telling me if I don't fear what they say I'm a goner for sure and the next one telling me it's OK what a mess. As I drive by the churches I see people that treat others poorly and even abusively that pretend to be one of Gods people when they are poor human specimens in reality.


If I get through the day and hurt nobody and let nobody hurt me or others then to me that's a good day!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Originally Posted By: Law Dog
Lots of abuse of religions lots of people you see hedging their bets as they get older trying to get a seat on that bus to the promised lands I see it more and more as I get older. A guy who never went to church in the last 50 years sending you Jesus memes when he hits 60.


People telling me if I don't fear what they say I'm a goner for sure and the next one telling me it's OK what a mess. As I drive by the churches I see people that treat others poorly and even abusively that pretend to be one of Gods people when they are poor human specimens in reality.


If I get through the day and hurt nobody and let nobody hurt me or others then to me that's a good day!

I agree completely....see it all the time as people get older.

Re: All this talk of heaven [Re: wetdog] #6304795
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and they think they are gonna bring you in when it only pushes you further from THEM.









Re: All this talk of heaven [Re: wetdog] #6304796
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truthfully all of this talk makes me rethink my son in christian school!!

Re: All this talk of heaven [Re: wetdog] #6304798
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but is it not the lesser of 2 evils Rogue?or at least should be.both boys have graduated and i don't envy you one bit.already believe the wife and i will homeschool the grandkids if them boys would ever take the hint.









Re: All this talk of heaven [Re: wetdog] #6304800
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its being run into the ground.

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