Your not starting the conflict!

A disbelief in God, pride, and unwilling to submit to God is what creates the conflict.

And if you pay attention to all these govt hand out programs.

What do they ultimately destroy?

I just use a Strong's in conjunction with Bible.

I will be entering my kids into Hebrew and Greek!

Oh boy. Listen, I use King James Bible. I believe it is the best translation. But I hope you don't listen to Steven Anderson. The guy is a kook.He believes that Christ went to he'll and literally burned to make payment for sins. He also believes that homosexuals should be shot in the head-no redemption for them.

Lol the Bible does say sodomites are worth of death. New and old testament. For that matter so do adulterers, murderers, and child molesters. Yet the world spends a lot of time making excuses for these sins.
In fact a recent Ted talk finally came out and said what the scholars in Europe have been saying for years... That pedophilia is just an orientation like being a sodomite..
That's horrible.


Jesus prophesying of his own death here..

Matthew 12:40
[40]For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

- the story from Jonah...

Jonah 2:1-4
[1]Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish's belly,
[2]And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of H'ELL cried I, and thou heardest my voice.
[3]For thou hadst cast me into the deep, in the midst of the seas; and the floods compassed me about: all thy billows and thy waves passed over me.
[4]Then I said, I am cast out of thy sight; yet I will look again toward thy holy temple.

- so here it is clear the connection between these two stories that Jesus was trying to convey. The center of the earth =s H'ELL.

Next verse. David prophesying of the death of Jesus Christ...

Psalms 16:9-10
[9]Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth: my flesh also shall rest in hope.
[10]For thou wilt not leave my soul in (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman); neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

- furthermore the conclusion of David's prophecy that was explained by Peter on the book of acts..

Acts 2:29-32
[29]Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
[30]Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
[31]He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in H'ELL, neither his flesh did see corruption.
[32]This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

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Later in the new testament we get some insight to what this means...


Ephesians 4:5-10
[5]One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
[6]One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
[7]But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
[8]Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
[9](Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
[10]He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

-- so draw your own conclusion brother. As I said before let God be true and every man a liar.

The family

Yup

Big govt hates functional families!

The most basic yet most important form of govt is a functional family!

I use Greek and Hebrew both in definitions and old ways of life and traditions to help understand original intents and meanings. And I'm an old KJV only guy.

Strong's Greek and Hebrew concordance

It's the "modern" changes in definitions that are problematic! One would think you could just go to store and buy dictionary and meanings of words would be the same as 2000 years ago.

Not so!

Need to be very careful!

It's why I'm old kjv only! You can really change the meaning or intent by changing a definition, moving punctuation, removing words, or adding words.

Sorry had to log onto my phone to cut and copy.

Here is one usage

Strong's Number
H2181
Original Word
זנה
Transliterated Word
zânâh
Phonetic Spelling
zaw-naw'
Parts of Speech
Verb
Strong's Definition
A primitive root (highly fed and therefore wanton); to commit adultery (usually of the {female} and less often of simple {forniciation} rarely of involuntary ravishment); figuratively to commit idolatry (the Jewish people being regarded as the spouse of Jehovah): - (cause to) commit {fornication} X {continually} X {great} (be {an} play the) {harlot} (cause to {be} play the) {(This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)} ({commit} fall to) {whoredom} (cause to) go {a-whoring} whorish.
Brown-Driver-Briggs' Definition
to commit fornication, be a harlot, play the harlot

(Qal)

to be a harlot, act as a harlot, commit fornication

to commit adultery

to be a cult prostitute

to be unfaithful (to God) (fig.)

(Pual) to play the harlot

(Hiphil)

to cause to commit adultery

to force into prostitution

to commit fornication

Usage by Word
harlot (32), whoring (18), whoredom (11), (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) (9), fornication (3), whoredoms (3), whorish (3), harlot's (2), harlots (2), (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) (2), commit (1), continually (1), great (1), harlots' (1), make (1), (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)'s (1)

Here is another usage

Strong's Number
G4202
Original Word
πορνεία
Transliterated Word
porneia
Phonetic Spelling
por-ni'-ah
Parts of Speech
Noun Feminine
Strong's Definition
From G4203; harlotry (including adultery and incest); figuratively idolatry: - fornication.
Thayer's Definition
illicit sexual intercourse

adultery, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism, intercourse with animals etc.

sexual intercourse with close relatives; Lev. 18

sexual intercourse with a divorced man or woman; Mk. 10:11,12

metaph. the worship of idols

of the defilement of idolatry, as incurred by eating the sacrifices offered to idols

Usage by Word
fornication (23), fornications (2)

Not all modern definitions are accurate. This is the issue with a dead language.
It is what it is. Don't get all bent out of shape.

If you want to assume the what the world tells you is truth over the Bible go ahead your free to do it. Likewise if you choose to believe the word of God is a living document that changes and moves with the winds of modern vernacular, feel free it's no skin off my back.

I choose to stick with the word of God over the worlds modern definitions. It is what it is.

Adultery is a married person engaging I sexual relations with a person other than their spouse.
Fornication is two unmarried people engaging in a sexual relationship without the union of marriage.

Still taking a Greek word porneia. Which I'm sure in modern Greek can't even be pronounced as it was back then, but given the definition is right I guess God was just wasting his time to make commandments about adultery. Seeing how they are one in the same.
I'm sure it was God who made the mistakes and not men.-- sarcasm


Like I said. There is no excuse for our sins, yet we always seem to find a way to force the Bible to say things it doesn't specifically say to justify our own sin.
Every man's way is right in their own eyes.


Divorce and remarriage is sin. And no matter what my ex-wife did it's not justified under the law of God.

I guess could cling to bogus modern definitions that give me a way out for my sin hut I think I'll just be guilty and glad Jesus paid for all my sins.
I'd rather believe the Bible than what the world says is true.
The word of God and the world are at enmity with one another. We can't ride the fence.

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Did I miss something?

Burning of chaff


Understanding of old ways and different cultures at the time of writing is important as well.

Yeah

I agree.

Then u also have usage to contend with

And cultural application of that time

And original intents of God.

But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Lol

Yeah. Sorry

Working off two devices. I have all my notes on one. This one is a new tablet. Don't have everything switched.

It's a tuff question!

I posted the above verse in reference to your question. After reading that verse. I'd say we are all guilty of adultery every day of the week in today's world.

I think there are 3 reasons that justifies divorce worldly speaking. Adultery, Abandonment, and Abuse. But at the same time God doesn't divorce you every time you commit Adultery, Abandonment, or Abuse against Him. So biblically I'd say there is no real reason to justify divorce based off God's example. But I believe he doesn't hold you accountable worldly speaking for any of those 3 reasons.

In short: I don't think divorce for the right reasons in the past would disqualify you from bring a Decon as long as you met all other qualifications and showed signs that you weren't the real reason divorce happened.

Then it comes down to testimony. Did that divorce ruin your testimony?

Lots of factors!

Which kind of covenant do you think marriage is?




There were also three covenants used in the Bible.

# 1 Shoe covenant used by Boaz in a binding agreement to redeem Ruth.

Ruth 4:7 Now this was the manner in former time in Israel concerning redeeming and concerning changing, for to confirm all things; a man plucked off his shoe, and gave it to his neighbourand this was a testimony in Israel. Therefore the kinsman said unto Boaz, Buy it for thee. So he drew off his shoe.

# 2 Salt covenant God made with David 2 Chronicles 13:5, Ought ye not to know that the LORD God of Israel gave the kingdom over Israel to David for ever, even to him and to his sons by a covenant of salt? Salt binds and preserves.

# 3 The Blood Covenant Hebrews 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

This is an unconditional and everlasting covenant make by the blood of our Lord Jesus Christ , and is called the new covenant. Heb 13:20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

The first blood covenant made in the Bible was an unconditional one with Abraham. It answers to the covenant "A "above

The blood covenant was used by two people as binding until death. It was the strongest and most binding of all covenants. They would take an animal and kill it. They would divide it in two parts and lay them apart. Each would walk through the parts and shake hands and their part in this covenant. The blood covenant was used by two people as binding until death. When God made this covenant He alone walked through the parts as Abraham slept, but he saw it all. It was absolutely unconditional and binds God by His own oath.

God made three unconditional promises to Abraham, and He made an unconditional covenant to fulfill them. This is the sovereignty of God.

Remember

Christ paid in blood!

And we are the bride!