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Re: Biblical requirments of a Deacon [Re: bowhunter27295] #6305990
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Re: Biblical requirments of a Deacon [Re: bowhunter27295] #6305992
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Re: Biblical requirments of a Deacon [Re: bowhunter27295] #6306020
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Originally Posted By: bowhunter27295
Let's stay focused here.

My original question was:

Can a Deacon be a man of one woman yet be divorced? .
. No. I think it is cut and dried Darien. It states not more than one wife. It does not Mention any other condition is acceptable for a pastor or deacon anywhere. And I do understand, though… The scripturally acceptable conditions that you are bringing up. Those would apply to someone not being an adulterer upon remarrying I was taught that God does not want a man in an office of the church who has had a failed marriage, regardless of the reason.


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Re: Biblical requirments of a Deacon [Re: bowhunter27295] #6306071
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I don't know how close a relationship the "scholars" had with Christ, which also is an indication of Spiritual guidance, this does have a bearing when I read what man has written.

The politics and business of church is awful and is the main reason we have so many denominations. Deacons have dirty jobs, being dirty doesn't help them do it better.

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Re: Biblical requirments of a Deacon [Re: danny clifton] #6306074
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Re: Biblical requirments of a Deacon [Re: bowhunter27295] #6306167
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I suspect the exact answers will be known in eternity, should we each be blessed to reach it.

As an elder (spiritual leader) of a medium sized (250-400) non-demoninational church these last three years I have watched theology tear large holes in the minds and hearts of man (and women). Do we suppose that the God of creation designed a system of absolutism that pits man vs. man? Perhaps, but I've been discipled by solid Dallas Theological Seminary pastors that teach me that as you study scripture long enough you realize that there is much mystery that is rich and deserving of a lifetime of study.

Perhaps, just perhaps... It's not all for man to figure out 100% and perhaps our God wants to see how well we practice grace, mercy, love of our neighbor, etc. here on earth!

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Re: Biblical requirments of a Deacon [Re: bowhunter27295] #6306168
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Why is there a need for interpretation? Why would the rules for not getting set on fire be open to interpretation? You would think the proper way to live and run a church would be crystal clear.


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Re: Biblical requirments of a Deacon [Re: danny clifton] #6306178
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Originally Posted By: danny clifton
Why is there a need for interpretation? Why would the rules for not getting set on fire be open to interpretation? You would think the proper way to live and run a church would be crystal clear.

It is clear, the words are right there. It's people that want something else really bad and try to justify it by twisting words and meanings. That's how I see it anyway, fwiw.


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Re: Biblical requirments of a Deacon [Re: danny clifton] #6306265
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Originally Posted By: danny clifton
Why is there a need for interpretation? Why would the rules for not getting set on fire be open to interpretation? You would think the proper way to live and run a church would be crystal clear.


Because people are not equal in their walk with God. Somethings that are relevant to someone advanced in their spirituality can be overwhelming to someone just beginning.


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Re: Biblical requirments of a Deacon [Re: bowhunter27295] #6306293
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Many Pastors have never cast out a demon or witnessed a healing or a miracle or have the gifts of the Spirit in their church. A church must have power or it is only a social club. The Holy Ghost is not allowed to move.

Re: Biblical requirments of a Deacon [Re: bowhunter27295] #6306361
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Originally Posted By: bowhunter27295
I guess this will just have to be a subject that will remain in question.

Due to interpretations of man and scholars and opinions of clergy and public there will always be questions.

And since no one can ask a first century Christian, Jew or Roman what it actually meant via the Dead Sea Scrolls, it will always be up to personal interpretation.

All I ask is to not kick a Godly man out of consideration to be a deacon because he had a failed marriage, especially if none of it was his fault. It would be a travesty in my opinion and a true loss for any church.



I don't think the question remains unanswered nor do you need the dead Sea scrolls to figure it out.


Paul comes to mind every time I think about this topic. Paul was the chiefest of sinners yet God used him. Then also think about other men who had pretty shady past before becoming saved then preaching etc...

If you have been truly made new? Then you should be treated as such! But at the same time you should pass through the gauntlet that are your peers and other church authority.

No man currently in any form of adultery to include having two wives should be given any athoritive role in church!!!

If I were the one interviewing you? Divorce would be a HUGE RED FLAG!!!!!!! My questions of you would only get more intense from that point forward.

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Remember

Even if she is the one who was wrong? You are still the one who made the "judgement" call to enter into that relationship!

Re: Biblical requirments of a Deacon [Re: bowhunter27295] #6306424
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Matthew 7:1-3 King James Version (KJV)

7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?


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Re: Biblical requirments of a Deacon [Re: bowhunter27295] #6306439
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Ok all ,if a man got divorced before he got born again, does the man of one wife requirement still apply in the way you interpret scripture iyo ?

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If you all need it explained in crayons I can get my kids involved!

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Or I can go get the felt instructional we use for children's class? They break the info into easier to comprehend fagments.

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Look!

If you all need it explained in crayons I can get my kids involved!

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Or I can go get the felt instructional we use for children's class? They break the info into easier to comprehend fagments.
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Or I can go get the felt instructional we use for children's class? They break the info into easier to comprehend fagments.
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Little felt cut outs of biblical stories. Use them on an easel

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