Trapline dogs - Decker rat terriers & Rotteilers?
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B. McDonald
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Hi, I trap coyotes on a 30,000 acre ranch in SW Oklahoma & want to get a new dog to help out on the line. Growing up on the farm & living in the country my entire life, I've had many many different dogs: mutts, greyhounds, pointers, Brittanys, English setter, small terriers, cow dogs, etc. My favorite dogs were a female Rottweiler & a small male rat terrier. My Rottweiler was the smartest dog of all & the most well mannered and the rat terrrier was the most intense w/ a very high prey drive. I'm considering another Rottie or maybe a larger Decker rat terrier. If anyone has had experience w/ either breed on the trapline, I'd appreciate any advice. I'd love to hear about your experiences. This coming season I'm gonna step it up & try to run over 100 traps Dec-March. About 1/2 of the ranch is rocky limestone hills w/ very shallow soil or no soil & I'll be using a lot of drags. In the past, I haven't trapped these habitats as much but it's really good cat habitat & them as well as coyotes are plentiful. I should mention I'm a research biologist & am conducting a project on coyotes; I hope to be radio or GPS collaring coyotes next summer to track them back to dens and a dog could help out a lot.
Thanks, Brandon
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Re: Trapline dogs - Decker rat terriers & Rotteilers?
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08/19/18 08:09 PM
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Red89
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In OK & TX, Black mouthed curs are fairly common. A lot of hog hunters use them & I know they're used for cattle to. How long have you used them on the trapline? I appreciate your feedback I will say, most dogs I have seen or heard of, used as hog dogs are half feral. Might know their name and that's about it. Put a handle on them and become buddies. You will get so much more out of them and your dog will be happier, too. To answer your question, I haven't used a dog on the trapline for very long. To be honest, I was afraid of getting one to run drags and find sign, then it be dumber than a box of rocks. Or Not care about anything I wanted to do. Not the case at all with my cur or any of the others I've seen that were really buddies with their owner. I was thoroughly impressed with about every aspect of them. Btw, $200 is cheap coming from not just proven out, but currently working parents. I would definitely like to hear some updates on progress if you get a pup from bmccoyote. Pictures wouldnt hurt, either. Anyway, I wish you luck with any route you go. And happy trappin'.
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Re: Trapline dogs - Decker rat terriers & Rotteilers?
[Re: Red89]
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In OK & TX, Black mouthed curs are fairly common. A lot of hog hunters use them & I know they're used for cattle to. How long have you used them on the trapline? I appreciate your feedback I will say, most dogs I have seen or heard of, used as hog dogs are half feral. Might know their name and that's about it. Put a handle on them and become buddies. You will get so much more out of them and your dog will be happier, too. To answer your question, I haven't used a dog on the trapline for very long. To be honest, I was afraid of getting one to run drags and find sign, then it be dumber than a box of rocks. Or Not care about anything I wanted to do. Not the case at all with my cur or any of the others I've seen that were really buddies with their owner. I was thoroughly impressed with about every aspect of them. Btw, $200 is cheap coming from not just proven out, but currently working parents. I would definitely like to hear some updates on progress if you get a pup from bmccoyote. Pictures wouldnt hurt, either. Anyway, I wish you luck with any route you go. And happy trappin'. They definitely buddy up good. Mine are (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) on wheels when it comes to the varmints, and the blackmouth is equally as good on cattle, not so much with the red dog though. But on any given day they can be with my 4 boys and be absolute puppy dogs, and my youngest is 15 months. In the winter I kennel mine in the house at night, and they are well mannered enough to spend evenings on the couch or stretched out in front of the fire place.
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Re: Trapline dogs - Decker rat terriers & Rotteilers?
[Re: B. McDonald]
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08/20/18 01:32 AM
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I will say im pleased with my aredale gyp a touch hard headed but only when she smells blood. And I cant get her to quit eating cat turds while scouting! Have'nt found a critter shes not scared to comfront
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Re: Trapline dogs - Decker rat terriers & Rotteilers?
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Where the dogs rides is a big factor too. No more big dogs in the cab of my truck ever again. They are almost as bad in a working trapline boat. Terriers are a nice size if they're riding with you.
The minority view here but the last thing I want is a dog that's nuts crazy about killing what I have in a trap. Spend half the day trying to get him/her off critters "IT" wants to pursue. No thanks.
Hahahahahaha!! Mine ride in the cab most of the time on the trapline, unless were looking for scat, and scent posts. When I take a horse though, they will ride in the trailer.
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Re: Trapline dogs - Decker rat terriers & Rotteilers?
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How big is your Airedale Tony ? year old and 60 something lbs I will wait till shes two and get her a boyfriend got a couple of studs located
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Re: Trapline dogs - Decker rat terriers & Rotteilers?
[Re: B. McDonald]
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I was told by a breeder she more than likely came out of odon corrs bloodline. Her mom was in the upper 70s and saw a pic of her grand pa he was 120.lbs lol a straight up brute!! id say my dog will be in the 70lb range . So far shes not very gritty! Shes happy baying until they try to escape then shes ready for business. I don't care if she don't want to fight. I'd rather her be a tracking dog versus a kill dog! But at just a year the scales can tip any direction.
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Re: Trapline dogs - Decker rat terriers & Rotteilers?
[Re: Red89]
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Curs are really good at this. To the point that trapping should be considered light work. Had a black mouth cur that would do the hokey-pokey if I asked her to and was one of the gamiest dogs I had ever seen. Get a good cur and you will have the gaminess of the decker and intelligence like your rott. While having a better nose than both. I'm John and I approve this message. I've got a catahoula curr/Dorn mix. She's off the chain. A nose better than my lab and drive to help like a starving stow away. I've watched her chase 4 coyotes from the property before I had her trained and anytime one went for her she would just bounce off the back of another one. We had a chat and got that under control.
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Re: Trapline dogs - Decker rat terriers & Rotteilers?
[Re: B. McDonald]
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Badgerman that red dog must be half possessed! To want to go toe to toe with a prarie wolverine! Cool pics though!
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[Re: TONY.F]
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Badgerman that red dog must be half possessed! To want to go toe to toe with a prarie wolverine! Cool pics though! She’s actually a really well-behaved smart dog. She just nuts up when she gets around badgers. I have no idea why. She can get a little aggressive with coyotes but doesn’t exhibit that blind hatred. If a coyote in a trap shows submission by laying down or looking away she just investigates. One bouncing around gets more interest. Aggressive ones she will mix it up with but not quite the intensity as with the screaming weasels. Mr. McDonald, good luck in your hunt for a trapping buddy.
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Re: Trapline dogs - Decker rat terriers & Rotteilers?
[Re: B. McDonald]
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Beautiful pups. Mine had 8 a while back and they were such a handful, my wife cried daily taking care of them. Now that they’re all sold, she wants to do it again. Sounds like addiction.
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Re: Trapline dogs - Decker rat terriers & Rotteilers?
[Re: B. McDonald]
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golf ball those jags are gritty little dogs watch a video of them working feral hogs! I bet that pig thought big bumble bees was after it! The video I watched that pig couldn't get away from that dog! Currs are a all around good hunting dog. tons of heart and a good nose to boot!
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Re: Trapline dogs - Decker rat terriers & Rotteilers?
[Re: B. McDonald]
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dynamite comes in small packages that a male
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Re: Trapline dogs - Decker rat terriers & Rotteilers?
[Re: Terrence j]
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Bmc those are nice looking pups. If I lived closer I would like to have one. I'm itching for a "hound" dog and I'm sure the wife would be ok with it cause puppies are cute. Lol Road trip!! It's been a while since I've been that far east. hahahahahaha!!
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