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Re: Amish [Re: FlyinFinn] #6310872
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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Simple math displays that the population ofthe U.S. will be majority Amish some day. They outbreed us. Muslims outbreed us, too. I wonder if Amish will step up to defend our freedom from Islam, or will their pacifism be our demise?


They will not defend us or themselves, Unless the next generation is different than the last.

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Re: Amish [Re: AJE] #6310874
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I have a friend, Sam, who used to be Amish
I think it's probably quite rare for them to leave.


You must not know many Amish. Quite a few leave the clan.

Re: Amish [Re: AJE] #6311152
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Yes, youngsters are fleeing like rats from a sinking vessel.
Corey, back in the 70s many of them were SW of P.C. and east, along the highway. Now there are some down around St Bridget, Axtell, and Beattie.
They have a great greenhouse nursery at Axtell.


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Re: Amish [Re: AJE] #6311164
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I worked on some logging jobs with them. They wore absolutely no safety gear at all. That straw hat wasn't stopping spit from 60' up. I was a timber tramp so to speak going from one Co to another when they needed help, but the amish always seemed to win out quite a bit. It wasn't because they were better, I think they worked cheaper because workmans comp wasn't mandantory for them. But hey, I had my own ride...…..I was somewhat bitter because they were exempt from that (I think)…...I never hired any for help.

Re: Amish [Re: AJE] #6311194
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I know a guy down here in Tenn that left the Amish as a teenager, and his father passed and left some of the property to him(125 acres) in Ohio, its a dairy farm but his relatives own everything around him and don't associate with him so he doesn't use the property, and he said they are still running cattle on it. Great guy and he has the biggest calf muscles I've ever saw on a man! I did see a van full of Amish at the store the other day but that's about it for east Tenn, grounds to steep and rocky I guess

Re: Amish [Re: AJE] #6311233
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Re: Amish [Re: hippie] #6311908
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You must not know many Amish. Quite a few leave the clan. [/quote]

I see a lot but yeah you're right I don't know many personally. None actually. Most people around here don't. Although the Amish wave Everytime they go by the house. I don't doubt what you're saying but I haven't heard of many around here leaving the Amish sect.

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Re: Amish [Re: AJE] #6312025
08/27/18 10:14 PM
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The statistics I have seen say that around 20% of Amish children leave their religion and communities. It seems amazing that that most stay in after seeing how everyone else lives. The same thing goes with the Mennonites, Dunkards and other members of the Old German Order.

Since Amish have an average of 6 to 8 children, even with some losses, their numbers will continue to grow.

Keith

Re: Amish [Re: AJE] #6312040
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Inbreeding could be an issue

Re: Amish [Re: AJE] #6312048
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Originally Posted By: AJE
Inbreeding could be an issue


Negative recessive traits are a big problem for the Amish. Locally they have been bringing in single Amish men from Europe to some of the communities. I have heard they have set up some new communities with young families from all over the country in other states. I know two guys, who drive the Amish and they are both getting paid to drive young, Ohio Amish people to events in other states, probably to help them find spouses from a different community.

All of the Amish I have met have the last names Troyer, Miller, Kaufman or Yoder.

Keith

Re: Amish [Re: AJE] #6312049
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We have an Amish family that lives about a mile from here and they're good people. Dad bought a bow from me for his oldest son and I gave the younger son a small bow and some arrows, so he'd have one to shoot too. All the kids including the girls ended up shooting it, so I dug out another small longbow and some more arrows so they didn't have to wait so long between turns. They've all gone out of their way to show their appreciation, including Mom trying to load me up with baked goods and vegetables.


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Re: Amish [Re: AJE] #6312056
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I don't eat their food. I've heard their hand washing / sanitariness is very poor. Some people around here love their food but there's a lot that won't touch it.

Re: Amish [Re: AJE] #6312078
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Originally Posted By: AJE
I don't eat their food. I've heard their hand washing / sanitariness is very poor. Some people around here love their food but there's a lot that won't touch it.


All the Amish homes I have been in were immaculately clean. The outside of those homes, out buildings, gardens and yards were well kept too. Except when they were working, all the Amish I have met were clean.

There is one group of Amish, not far from me that regular people and some of the Amish I know call the dirty Amish. I have not met any of them. Their houses and farms looked pretty ramshackle, when I drove by. There is a fair amount of variation between communities, especially when it comes to how much technology they use.

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Re: Amish [Re: KeithC] #6312097
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We don't have a lot of families but there are a couple areas near by that are growing and one that is shrinking back some. With my farm business classes I did have several Amish farmers that I worked with. The old order came in the area about 20-25 years ago and is shrinking back some. The New order group has been settling in over the last 15 years. They do have church together at times but other than that they don't seem to mesh too well.
It is getting harder for the Amish to get enough acres to run a full size or family dairy farm but that is one reason the settled near by we have pockets with several smaller farms that the Amish can run 30-70 cows on. Here they utilize a lot of custom hiring for chopping,, balage etc. and cornsilage. Several are developing organic dairies and many sell produce. They have pretty much put a lot of the farmer markets in the smaller communities out of business.
Several had cell phones plugged in to their milkhouses etc. They had power to the barn and other buildings but not the house. The new order utilizes skid steers etc. along with other mechanical machines etc. The older order not so much. The kids learn english when they go to school. They file and pay taxes and borrow monies from banks, government and family. I don't know for sure if they pay into SS or not.

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Re: Amish [Re: AJE] #6312103
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I here the head Amish priest or whatever he is gets all the money and it's distributed as he see's fit. Sound's like a heck of a gig,for him anyway. He cruises around in a car to with some of the ones just under him. That guy sounds gangster to me. cool lol

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Re: Amish [Re: Bigbrownie] #6312354
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Originally Posted By: Bigbrownie
It’s funny to watch them fish at Pymatuning. You can tell when the walleye bite is on....they show up in droves and the campgrounds fill up with their families. They’ll rent a pontoon boat for $100 for 8 hours. I’ve see them packed with 12-15 people of all ages.( remember, a 3 year old can legally posess a limit of 6 walleye too). The last two years I’ve noticed many Amish women looking at cell phones in the boat, paying more attention to them than their fishing rods.


AND Only those that live with-in walking distance and in there neighborhood know the truth.I live very close to Pyma.Lake and the statement above is true.the State cabin park on the Ohio side is full for 2 months when the bite is on.the boats come in swing the stringer to the wife and out they go again.
your thoughts that some are good, I agree totally. the others is purge all the resources and move on.Period!

Re: Amish [Re: muddyriverdogz] #6312366
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Originally Posted By: muddyriverdogz
I here the head Amish priest or whatever he is gets all the money and it's distributed as he see's fit. Sound's like a heck of a gig,for him anyway. He cruises around in a car to with some of the ones just under him. That guy sounds gagnsterto me. cool lol


He’s the Bishop


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Re: Amish [Re: AJE] #6978031
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We witnessed a new one last night. I couldn't believe it. An amish buggy came by my house shining deer. Apparently they had a 12V battery as an energy source.

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Some of the Amish near Mt.Hope, Ohio drive solar powered, 4 wheel drive vehicles. They have solar lights in their schools' bathrooms, which are in a separate building from the school. I had to pick up an Amish man at a Halloween party they were having at a school. They used kerosene lamps for light inside the school.

Twice recently, I went to an Amish produce auction. Both times, two elderly Amish women were selling masks they made, while they, like all the other Amish present, went maskless. I found it funny.

I wish there were Amish people living close to me. They have a good work ethic and I would higher Amish teenagers to work on my farm, if they could get here. A few weeks ago, I had a Mexican friend of mine I was talking about the Amish produce auctions with say "Man those people work really hard all the time, even the little kids." I told him that Mexicans have a reputation for working hard too.

Keith

Re: Amish [Re: AJE] #6978055
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they do massive deer drives cutting fences, trespassing, running rampant tthru the community not giving 2 hoots about it.

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