Hi, I would like to know the steps i need to take. Duration,what to add to preserve it, tools needed, do i add any scents to it etc.

What i have:13 Quarts of cubed deer meat in jars., Sodium benzoate! 5gal pale with lide.

Thanks for the help

pure quill will liven up any deer meat 4-5 drops per 5 gallons

Take 5 quarts and to each one add:
2 tea spoons of non iodine salt
1 tea spoon of honey
1-oz fox urine
water to fill leaving head space and then process "can" the meat in the quart jars
The rest I would divide into two gallons adding a cup of sodium benzoate and a bait soak solution to one and freezing the other to use fresh and natural later on.

Everything you want to know is in the Archives. Spend a couple days there and see if you don't get all the info you need.

Ok that sounds good. I want to use it as fresh from beginning of season till end since this is all i have for this season. Hope to get some beaer next spring for next seasons bait.
Thanks

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and I use aquarium airstones for 1 way venting.,,cept now I put it down in the recess so I can stack several buckets to save space

those are screw on/off lids from Lowes, making life much easier for my arthritic hands.

Smear, juicy pasty baits that soak into the hole get canines active and digging. Good for the folks who arent "professionals" and may need them canines to move around a little more at the set. Jmo

You still have time to taint some bait, then add some Dobbin's Bait Solution, and fix it...before the season. But, better get started next week.

1) Grind up some meat.
2) Taint it for 3 weeks.
3) Add bait solution, and let it gas off for 3 weeks.
4) Bottle it up.
5) Throw it in a hole, and sharpen the skinning knife.

Ya i just bought 4 lids at Menards for 20 bucks that screw on and off. The stone is something i have so ill give that a try. I figure i would have to taint the meat for a couple weeks before i added my sodium benzoate to it. Any chance you know how much per pound of meat?

If i dont have to im not going to buy anything more for it than what i have. Any suggestions on lure i could add to it? I have over 60 different lures to use?. from food based to all call.
I know i am going to take at least one jar and add skunk pee to it that i collected this spring. but just s drop or so.

Depends whose bait solution you use. Dobbins is loaded with SB and comes with a lil extra baggie of it.
Blackies and Jamesons and others use 1 cup/gal meat.

You must ask the maker of the solution to know. All those guys are great and answer phones and emails quickly.

I have many many game cam pics this summer of coyotes going crazy for every cheap canned and dry dog food I placed. I put it in big dirtholes little dirtholes deep holes and shallow, buried it they dug it up. Moved a hundred yards and they found it within 2 days. Same results in different sections. I do like something potent when very cold, have you smelled some cans of cheap dogfood?

cheap canned dog food makes a good change up attractor but coons and grinners love it too!

I hear you, but don't they love everything anyhow?

not everything but close! Well grinners yes everything!

If you are referring to all the baits that are talked about on this forum, then you are correct. People complicate bait because X Y and Z said they "found" the next best thing since sliced bread for an ingredient. They may not "love" it but they don't have to "love" it for a bait to get their attention. They do a solid job at digging out holes when testing, does that mean they love it? I'm no Dr. Dolittle so I assume they "like" it. Some people posses those powers on here, I'm sure they can tell you what is really on a canines mind. For me simplicity is key to attract canines. People who need to come up with these elaborate ingredient lists should prolly reevaluate trap placement. Because it is not hard to attract canines or any other critter to an area/hole that is baited, if you have them to begin with. More times than not, it's trapper error. jmo

LOL, one of your competitors likes to gather the masses into thinking there is some secret hocus pocus in their stuff that is by far better than anyone else.LOL I have tried the name brand solutions and baits and all that jazz,caught coyotes but not like what I make personally. Lack of or skimping on ingredients my guess.

Who knows, but my little guys make bait and get consistent dig outs from "desired" animals, and do it without magic "aging" boxes, buried baits, heat lamps or other contraptions. Bucket, lid and a storage place is all that is used, and of course the "magic" base with $100 an ounce ingredients because without those, the base is just a base....


Kids put this post in and smeared bait on the post. Pretty easy thing to do..agreed? Seems like if the trap doesn't connect then it must be the bait... That is why I believe if more emphasis was put on trap placement and stacking the chips against the target, the bait & lure aspect wouldn't be so complicated because it doesn't take much at all to get them there. jmo




This is how I find out what they like. Punch hundreds of holes year round, because IMO that is how you find a solid consistent bait.

Reading between the lines I'm guessing u guys think simple is better

Yes sir, I believe so! Going off the Acronym "KISS" that is used so often on this forum why wouldn't it be? Let me ask you ??? What is the main function of bait at a set? I know some think there are many but ultimately what is the objective? If I didn't know better I would assume it would be used to draw that animal in and have it commit to an area where you had placed a trap...No? Then lemme ask you thiz...if a bait with three ingredients in it can get virtually the same response from your "desired target" what is the difference? Not sold by a big commercial dealer? Not being used by X amount of people? At the end of the day realistically all you're looking to do is get that animal curious to what is in the area or down the hole. You don't need elaborate ingredient lists to attract animals. JMO

uh oh. now you done it.

I like stuff that will catch whatever finds it first. I have a species in mind when I make a set but what I think is the right spot for a coon has more than once produced a coyote fox or cat, or vice versa. I'd rather make a cat set and catch a coyote than not catch anything. have caught plenty of cats in spots no one (I don't think) would make a cat set, but my coyote attracter interested the cat that found it first.

cats are a lot pickier than coyotes

Sure simple is easier to make! But why wouldn't a maker try and capitalize on every trait a predator has? If x is hunger y is territorial z is sexual don't you think the bait with just x is going to lag behind the formula with xyz? Now im not a pro but that's pretty clear in my eyes.Dont get me wrong I believe in the kiss method as much as the next guy. But theres a time and a place for it.

I'm just a beginner but logic leads me to think there could be both simple and complex lure formulations that can be attractive to Target animals. And also keep in mind there more than one way to skin a cat... I'm respectful of the guys that say this is what works for me but cautious when someone says my way is the better way,best way or only way.

yes sir I agree I have a few one trick ponys and a few complex ones as well. my records show the complex ones out performed in all situations. Does that mean the simple single one gets the chopping block no! use everything to your advantage! If it only costs me time to make it not many critters are needed to make it profitable

What is the difference between "complex" and "simple", if they both get your animal to the designated area? You say tomayto I say tomahto but at the end of the day if the bait gets the critter to commit then it has done its job. If you have to spend hundreds of dollars on leet ingredients or build magic boxes and bury2 feet 6 inches and age for 3 years or until you reach that vintage odor to achieve that goal, then more power to yah.

That might be the difference, right there.

You could throw a piece of steak on the ground and attract a canine regardless of time of year so I'll ask again... What is the difference between complex and simple???? Jus help meh understand, and lets stay on topic regarding "bait" not lure. But wait if bait lures animals in too is it Lure? I'm all balled up and confused It's ok if you run out of material,interesting though.

tdhp whats your definition of complex versus simple? to me complex is multiple items handled in different fashions. Ok simple drop a mouse in a hole! Complex gallon fresh mice groud up half tainted 3 months preserved mixed with the other half that's fresh preserved. essential oils mold inihibtors,freeze proofing, fixatives, lift. that's a complex formula. sure the mice will catch but a formulated odor will out perform it. If not the government would'nt spend millions on research. If all it took was a handful of mice to end the predator population. We would be seeing yotes in books instead of traps

That's standard practice and would be simple. Sorta like a common sense thing especially if you wanted to use the bait in the winter, some type of freeze proofing agent would be used. Along with a carrier because odors shine in cold temps. I was hoping for an answer. I'm always up for a good deception/verbal judo response.

I think he just explained to you the difference...so you can quit asking.

And, it's obvious that you are all balled up and confused. You don't have to tell us.

ok then im waiting your definition then please

seems you were the one bragging about simple and running down "elaborate" formulas. If you need someone to explain the difference to you then maybe you shouldn't have been talking about them.

You are on a roll lately.

Am I? lmao, comical Im asking what complex is and I'm told aging meat for 3 months and adding oils. I love it! Heck the kids do that without any help, does that make it complex? I asked a question and you couldn't define it. D>T>I>P.. just a thread

Very confused and wrapped around the axle right now because you can't tell me what complex is. That grasshopper is why I was asking because what was stated ^ up dur is pretty basic. My 8 year old can throw together a pretty appealing coyote recipe and get pretty darn good responses through out the year. Does that make it complex? I would like to know your details because I want tew learn from you, but if you can't tell me what I'm trying to find out at the moment, I'll wait.:)

This side of the forum has been purdy quiet. Best responses come when you go against the grain, as you already know. Too easy..

that's your answer to complex? At least im trying to help not confuse or discourage

Age the bait and then dump oils into it? That is awesome, yup...NOW...that is complex! WOW... TY so much.

Right there is sound advice ! Not meant to confuse or belittle. Kind of how it should be I'd say.