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Re: Silent Sam [Re: Slewfoot] #6307275
08/21/18 04:16 PM
08/21/18 04:16 PM
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MN
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Where does it come from?

Re: Silent Sam [Re: Slewfoot] #6307494
08/21/18 08:56 PM
08/21/18 08:56 PM
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They push the envelope and if nobody stands up to them to protect what they say they care about,it looks like no one really cares about it.
If anyone really cared about those monuments they would not allow those people to wreck them.
If some a-holes were trying to take the tires off my truck in my driveway they would not have a free reign to do it.
From what I can see these are younger people doing this vandalism.There doesn't seem to be any young people on the other side who care,and older people have too much to lose to want to take a stand,and expect the law to do it for them.
The same type of stuff is going on here.The Indians tore down a statue of some English colonial governor that paid for scalps back in the day.Nobody really cared.

Last edited by Boco; 08/21/18 09:02 PM.

Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Silent Sam [Re: Boco] #6307500
08/21/18 09:03 PM
08/21/18 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: Boco
They push the envelope and if nobody stands up to them to protect what they say they care about,it looks like no one really cares about it.
If anyone really cared about those monuments they would not allow those people to wreck them.
If some a-holes were trying to take the tires off my truck in my driveway they would not have a free reign to do it.
From what I can see these are younger people doing this vandalism.There doesn't seem to be any young people on the other side who care,and older people have too much to lose to want to take a stand,and expect the law to do it for them.
The same type of bs is going on here.The Indians tore down a statue of some English colonial governor that paid for scalps back in the day.Nobody really cared.



Your dern close boco. Well said.


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Re: Silent Sam [Re: FlyinFinn] #6307507
08/21/18 09:07 PM
08/21/18 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Where does it come from?



It comes from the civil war, it was a derogatory term used by the yankee soldiers against the rebel soldiers, because the rebels held their lines as if they had tar stuck to their heals.


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Re: Silent Sam [Re: FlyinFinn] #6307927
08/22/18 11:11 AM
08/22/18 11:11 AM
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havelock, NC
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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Where does it come from?


It was originally a derogatory term for those that worked in the naval stores and ended up with Tar on their boots. It was applied to both white and blacks that worked in these areas. During the Civil War it morphed into a term of pride. Rebel Soldiers were said to have stood their ground on the battlefield as if their boots were stuck in tar. Ever since then it's been a point of pride that North Carolinians don't run from a fight. I find great irony that these kids were so offended by a statue yet chose to attend and fund a school that is steeped in Civil War History.


"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living; the world owes you nothing; it was here first. "
--Mark Twain.

Re: Silent Sam [Re: danny clifton] #6307948
08/22/18 11:28 AM
08/22/18 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted By: danny clifton
Our country would be a much different place if our ancestors had not brought africans here as slaves



LOL Hey Danny dig into the beginning of slave trade. WHO was the ones supply the product. ( not calling any race to belittle them) It was African tribes capturing other tribes and trading them for goods to explorers.....

Re: Silent Sam [Re: jbyrd63] #6308006
08/22/18 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: jbyrd63
Originally Posted By: danny clifton
Our country would be a much different place if our ancestors had not brought africans here as slaves



LOL Hey Danny dig into the beginning of slave trade. WHO was the ones supply the product. ( not calling any race to belittle them) It was African tribes capturing other tribes and trading them for goods to explorers.....



This is truth.


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Re: Silent Sam [Re: Slewfoot] #6308936
08/23/18 06:10 PM
08/23/18 06:10 PM
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UNC promises to prosecute topplers of Confederate war memorial statue

https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/48165/

It’s not our fault police did nothing

“We do not support lawlessness.”

The University of North Carolina is promising to “use the full breadth of state and University processes to hold those responsible accountable” for toppling the “Silent Sam” statue Monday night.

Protesters at the destruction of the Confederate war memorial included students and professors, according to news reports.

They had been agitating for its destruction for years, but grew especially incensed after the administration said it couldn’t remove the 105-year-old statue because of state law. A letter claiming to represent 17 UNC professors threatened to remove the statue themselves this winter.

UNC leaders released an evasive statement to the community Tuesday denying that the administration “direct[ed] the officers to allow protesters to topple the monument.”

It did not deny, however, that it issued general directions for campus police to leave alone the protesters as they plotted how to tear down the statue.
he Daily Tar Heel reported the group of about 300 protesters hung banners around the statue, with no intervention by police, to hide the “ropes” they would soon use to yank hard and tear it down.

The statement by Chancellor Carol Folt, Board of Governors Chair Harry Smith, UNC System President Margaret Spellings and UNC-Chapel Hill Board Chair Haywood Cochrane claims they relied on “the experience and judgment of law enforcement to make decisions on the ground, keeping safety as the top priority.”

They sought to pass the buck from their own students and faculty by claiming the “rally” was “unlike any previous event on our campus,” with “a number of people unaffiliated” with UNC and “highly organized.”

Protesters “do not have the right to damage state property,” however, and the State Bureau of Investigation has agreed to help the police “fully investigate the incident.”

The leaders claimed they “will never condone mob actions.”

Re: Silent Sam [Re: Ray B] #6308953
08/23/18 06:39 PM
08/23/18 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: Ray B
UNC promises to prosecute topplers of Confederate war memorial statue

https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/48165/

It’s not our fault police did nothing

“We do not support lawlessness.”

The University of North Carolina is promising to “use the full breadth of state and University processes to hold those responsible accountable” for toppling the “Silent Sam” statue Monday night.

Protesters at the destruction of the Confederate war memorial included students and professors, according to news reports.

They had been agitating for its destruction for years, but grew especially incensed after the administration said it couldn’t remove the 105-year-old statue because of state law. A letter claiming to represent 17 UNC professors threatened to remove the statue themselves this winter.

UNC leaders released an evasive statement to the community Tuesday denying that the administration “direct[ed] the officers to allow protesters to topple the monument.”

It did not deny, however, that it issued general directions for campus police to leave alone the protesters as they plotted how to tear down the statue.
he Daily Tar Heel reported the group of about 300 protesters hung banners around the statue, with no intervention by police, to hide the “ropes” they would soon use to yank hard and tear it down.

The statement by Chancellor Carol Folt, Board of Governors Chair Harry Smith, UNC System President Margaret Spellings and UNC-Chapel Hill Board Chair Haywood Cochrane claims they relied on “the experience and judgment of law enforcement to make decisions on the ground, keeping safety as the top priority.”

They sought to pass the buck from their own students and faculty by claiming the “rally” was “unlike any previous event on our campus,” with “a number of people unaffiliated” with UNC and “highly organized.”

Protesters “do not have the right to damage state property,” however, and the State Bureau of Investigation has agreed to help the police “fully investigate the incident.”

The leaders claimed they “will never condone mob actions.”



Translation; Nothing to see here, move along and forget about it.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Silent Sam [Re: Slewfoot] #6308963
08/23/18 07:03 PM
08/23/18 07:03 PM
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The leaders claimed they “will never condone mob actions.”

Leaders?,..who are these leaders?

Re: Silent Sam [Re: Slewfoot] #6309562
08/24/18 05:31 PM
08/24/18 05:31 PM
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They started arresting them today, surprisingly....

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article217276705.html


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Re: Silent Sam [Re: Slewfoot] #6309590
08/24/18 06:17 PM
08/24/18 06:17 PM
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good


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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