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Re: Flat Sets [Re: Wolfdog91] #6310120
08/25/18 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted By: Wolfdog91


Sorta how mine look when done

Re: Flat Sets [Re: grayfox54] #6310121
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Originally Posted By: grayfox54
Originally Posted By: Law Dog
I don't mind a little backing here a flat rock a tuff of grass or a dirt shelf next to a cattle trail works for me. Like MI trapper said they are tough to find especially after a rain or snow they blend in so well. LOL


When I can’t find a set in snow I use a metal detector

I use my dog, her nose is faster

Re: Flat Sets [Re: shortliner16] #6310151
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lol, this guy knows it's the end of the road for him....great pic....



Thought I was a good trapper until I started trapping coyotes......
Thought I was a good bowhunter until I targeted mature bucks....
Re: Flat Sets [Re: shortliner16] #6310295
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This is a good thread. Is this the "go to" set you guys use? Or is it made near one of your dirt hole sets?

Re: Flat Sets [Re: ambush32] #6310303
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[quote=ambush32]lol, this guy knows it's the end of the road for him....great pic....


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My thinking is the big males lay there and glare at you cause they know from our size we are dominate over them, like they are dominate in their group

Re: Flat Sets [Re: shortliner16] #6310309
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This sometimes lol


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Re: Flat Sets [Re: red mt] #6310407
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Shortline asks-...some more tips and set pictures of flat sets. I feel I'm missing something on that as my success is not what I expect it to be.
Flat sets... set under their nose, where they travel or stall out. Set at predominate object, grass clump, stone, piece of wood, cow pie and such. Very little disturbance when constructing a trap bed. Pounding in trap bed (no digging) works find before freeze up. Premade beds for winter use (frozen ground) is nice when you go to set. Keep bed the size of trap.
Blend well to natural surroundings. This is where folks may have problems. Blend in set.
Guiding is with droppings, dirt clogs, pebble, small twigs and such combined with backing.
Predominate object (backing) can be placed ahead of the season during your preseason scouting if need be. This is part of preseason work when dressing up/preparing your locations.


Preseason scouting I notice a dead grass area along this farm lane. At that time, I transplanted a tuff of grass, for backing, in this dead grass area, for later use.

Here's the finished set with trap in place...


...and how a transplanted tuff of grass works at a flat set



Here's a spot near the local airport.
Lots of droppings here when I was scouting. Right for flat sets.
Finding plenty of grass tuffs here, backing & trap placement is easy while blending with grass clippings.


Runway Reds




Natural grass clump was used as backing for flat set at this spot. Trap covered with dead grass from area. No before picture.
Tuff of grass took this tough guy...




Preseason scouting, I noticed a bare spot. Farmer mowed high weeds and turned at post. Mower dug up dirt creating a bare spot. I then place small rock and Fox dropping in bare spot (before season opened).
Classic Wolfdog91 (his picture) flat set well blended in bare dirt, was used here...


a closer look...Coyote


Re: Flat Sets [Re: red mt] #6310504
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Originally Posted By: red mt


This sometimes lol


When they do that it's time to drop a new set in nearby in my experience.

Re: Flat Sets [Re: gryhkl] #6310509
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Originally Posted By: gryhkl
This is a good thread. Is this the "go to" set you guys use? Or is it made near one of your dirt hole sets?


Hammer and roll, enough trouble chipping a trap bed why do any more digging.

Re: Flat Sets [Re: Okie Farmer] #6311387
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Where do you place lure at a Flat Set?
On backing? High or low on backing?
In small hole under backing?

Re: Flat Sets [Re: shortliner16] #6312351
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So, what lures are people have success with? Gland based, call lure or a stinky bait?

Re: Flat Sets [Re: shortliner16] #6312369
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I use the flat set here more then any other set as it's flat here! LOL It has a mini dirt hole element to it but the idea is a small backing just off of a cattle trail often. The standard dirt hole I almost never used mostly because a stake hole is easier to make then digging a dirt hole in our soil (seconds VS minutes).

Badger mound sets are deadly also and they allow me to use my 3Ns with pit pans and that fees up the MJs both good traps just the 3Ns are tougher to bury being longsprings.

Badger hole

Double in flat sets 2nd one is tough to see! (My old camera)




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Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Flat Sets [Re: shortliner16] #6312411
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Law Dog, I hate to be the bearer of bad news.....but I think that first coyote might be rubbed lol


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Flat Sets [Re: Savell] #6312468
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Originally Posted By: Savell
Law Dog, I hate to be the bearer of bad news.....but I think that first coyote might be rubbed lol




Yep rubbing a $50 and a $20 together it looks like! LOL wink


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Re: Flat Sets [Re: shortliner16] #6312534
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Re: Flat Sets [Re: shortliner16] #6312762
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Lol, 50+20$, nice pictures, if frozen ground sometimes I use the shallow trench a chizel plow left to bed trap in, blend it, less digging in frozen ground that way

Re: Flat Sets [Re: traprjohn] #6312882
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Originally Posted By: traprjohn


and the Triple Pebble set


Numerous PM's for Tripple Pebble Set info so here it is.

Find a large FLAT object as the roof....cow pie, flat rock or wood
place 3 pebbles. marble to golf ball size, in a triangular pattern slightly smaller than your roof....in the middle of the triangle,
with stake, stuff a cotton ball or sheep wool gob in the ground just enough to hold in place, ADD LURE to it, and cover with the roof so the pebbles hold the roof off the ground.

This is weather proof and the scent flows from below the roof perfectly.


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