I agree with not doing it I don't feel it's anybody's business how Americans kill there product but! Dons right nothing were gonna be able too do about it! It's headed that way and sooner or later it's gonna happen. On a gensang note witch was a good parallel I can't even legally dig the stuff I planted in my yard until the season opened every yr.
Taxidermy huge part of my income let's get into some of that bullcrap game warden come to my house every yr to update me on new and changed laws! The only difference is it's state laws and fed laws not international if are fish and wildlife agencies will do there job internationaly they can kick sand. There gonna do it weather we comply or not! My vote is not but it won't stop um!
Colt

Yep..I'll try this again..Does a mink farmer anywhere in the world have to comply with a signature also?

What fur market Buck???????????????????????????????? BMP was going to save us all. Every woman in every first world country was going to buy fur garments if we just make soccer mom's happy with bmp.

A few coyotes in a very small part of the world have a small value as do a very few select cats. That's it. 25 cats or a hundred coyotes will no longer buy a new 4wd pickup no matter where you catch them at. C.I.T.E.S. and BMP have gotten us NOTHING.

Is this traceability thing going to change that? If so how? I'm already putting my name and license #'s on every bag of fur nafa gets. I feel like we are getting another the emperor is wearing invisible clothes stories.

It's not about any of those things. It's about money. The people putting the stamp (MSC FSC or other equally superfluous stamps) on products are well paid for little effort. They don't provide a real service or product.

Those wishing to be certified pay dearly for it.

I never heard the BMP's were going to save us all or the way the market works.It most certainly saved us from the direction the EU was trying to take us.The market,will go were it goes regardless,always has,always will.But trying to keep our markets open is the goal,period.If all Europe or Asia signed on to an agreement like this you going to tell them all to go to (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) or you going to do something to keep them open?We are dealing with a global trade here,whether we like it or not we're going to have to play a different ball game with some.And as far as the markets condition at the moment,lets be real here.The market for the most part collapsed after WW2,what market existed was a'rat and mink game.Then the '70's fur boom which ended in the mid to late '80's.After that it went to a sporadic market again,similar to pre boom days.Up till now these politics played nothingwith the market,how politics play with our future is anybodies guess but I can guarantee you it'll be rearing its ugly head.Nobody on here likes what I'm saying and I can't make a prediction on how this is going to play out,but a new era is here and there's nothing you're going to do to stop it.

Furs "coyotes" are already being tagged as to which state they came from. CG or anyone else can then decide if they want to buy fur from that state based on regs. within that state. My guess eventually a trapper will get tags which say Minn. on them and have to tag each pelt. Time will tell.

.....if CG starts buying furs based on where it came from rather than guality it will go south in a hurry. For instance, they are going to buy only idaho tagged coyotes ,you will start seeing alot of coyotes from other states with idaho tags on them. ....just saying

Contrary to Don's surrender, there's nothing inevitable about this. The fact that "this whole thing has been in the works for I think over 20 years" demonstrates that "this whole thing" is not a done deal waiting for us down the road in any sense. It's been in the works for decades because we haven't participated and have no reason to do so.

1. We don't have to sign anything to sell our fur. Some folks believe this will be necessary because of the veiled threats from NAFA and Canada Goose. For example, we're being told our fur might not sell as well if we don't participate, and that this will be an industry-wide standard in the near future.

2. The United States DID NOT sign onto AIHTS. So signing a document in the future that would indicate you've followed AIHTS guidelines is meaningless. Right now, NAFA is asking that we voluntarily confirm in writing that we've followed our BMPs. But why? It's none of their business, and it does absolutely nothing to meet AIHTS compliance anyway. They're not a regulatory body; they have no regulatory jurisdiction, and they have no regulatory power to hand out sanctions.

3. So what’s the big deal, right? This is the point: As soon as you begin signing documents indicating your compliance to x, y or z, you are giving consent to a process and a set of practices that legitimizes the authority of someone over your actions. And this is the case even if the document is not legally binding.

4. NAFA wants to get this process and practice rolling ASAP so as to establish an industry-wide standard that they initiated first. This is how most industry practices become set in stone. The only way for this process and practice to succeed is if trappers in the United States voluntarily cooperate in the here and now.

5. Fur Certification and Traceability becomes inevitable only if we participate in it, and believe in the veiled threats that NAFA or any other fur auction will not buy our furs unless we comply with the dictates of the European Union.

Wallfur just telling you what it is,make of it what you will. There are unethical people in the fur deal now and there always was and always will be, that's one thing that will never change.

we been down the road of appeasing animal rights lunatics before. just like trying to appease the gun control is good for you crowd it is pointless. they can pound sand. wheres the money from agreeing to bmp testing and cites????????????????????????? I havnt seen any yet. barely a coyote and cat market and only for a select few. you would think the appease animal rights activist crowd would at least come up with a new fairy tale

Danny and Mainer 2024! I well remember when the BMP talk started and it was a veiled or not so veiled threat for marketing our fur. How much is the EU buying now? We must have more foresight ahead than just how to sell what's in our shed or freezer this year. All of this type thing is done incrementally and over time. Some start to accept it and it gets easier to take the next pill. The auction houses I'm afraid are having no problem and endorsing this for their own reasons. We have to think of it many years down the road and what it will turn into.

They have. It's called Fur Certification and Traceability. It's the new Shangri-La for trappers and will transform our collective pursuits into a global paradise. Who knew that the European Union would come to our rescue and make us all rich...once again!

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Who is tagging them? I have not seen any.

Sustainable My Arse !!!

That Alaskan Pollack Ground-Fishing Industry is Gradually killing Off Alaskan King Salmon Stocks which are a

Mega-Significant Accidental By-Catch of The Pollack Fishery.

The World Famous Kenai River King Salmon Sport Fishery in The Kenai River is A High Profile Casualty Of The

Allegedly Sustainable Alaskan Pollack Fishery.

Sustainabilty is just a buzzword adopted by marketers to sell a product.

In This Case, Sustainability is a Total Fabrication and A Multi-Milllion Dollar Sport Fishery is The Victim

Pure Propaganda.

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By 2020 mink farms will all be certified, much bigger process for mink farmers each farm has to be inspected, audited and certified. US mink farmers are in good shape, Canadian farmers just starting the process. Europe well on their way to being done.

THANK YOU GIBB..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep..So it looks like everybody getting on "Get On"...Everybody getting off "Get Off"..LOL

Our government decided truckdrivers were not smart enough to sleep once in a while. So they mandated computers to tell the drivers when to park and when to work. The guys causing all the problems are still in the back row of the truckstops smoking dope and playing with fancy ladies. Didn't effect them at all they don't work much anyway.

This is the same thing. A guy to lazy to check traps, put swivels in the chain or whatever is not going to stop doing those things he will just sign the letter. Meanwhile the honest trapper is still paying for the dishonest trappers shenanigains.

Still haven't had anybody show me the carrot in all this.

why?...because there is no carrot there. Danny

No carrot Danny, but there is a turd for the trapper. The carrot goes to the end user in the form of sales via the marketing campaign they have set into motion.


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