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Running a mixed coon & canine line #6321852
09/10/18 04:24 PM
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Weston, WI USA
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I’ll be trapping coon and canine on the same properties this season. Does it hurt your canine catch when your setting for coon and canines at the same time. I trapped these same properties just for canines and had a bunch of snapped traps I believe were mostly coon. Caught some in my sets but most escaped I believe cause of the offset jaw. So Id like to clean a bunch of them out. Anything you guys do different on your mixed lines to not hurt your canine catch?

Re: Running a mixed coon & canine line [Re: BearB8] #6321918
09/10/18 06:05 PM
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Mix some DPs at the same locations. I've had coyotes try and carry them off. They only add more smells. Also coon remakes are hot for coyotes here in K9 sets. Iv'e had quite a few coon/coyote doubles.


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Re: Running a mixed coon & canine line [Re: BearB8] #6322068
09/10/18 07:58 PM
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I do the same with dp traps along with k9. I also use some 1 1/2 dukes in the mix for coon that I centerd swiveled and base plated just in case i connect with a coyote
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Re: Running a mixed coon & canine line [Re: BearB8] #6322754
09/11/18 03:17 PM
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DPs are the best. Body traps are easy too. It is hard to trap coons and coyotes if throw fish bait into the mix- it gets everywhere.


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Re: Running a mixed coon & canine line [Re: BearB8] #6322778
09/11/18 03:55 PM
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When I trap for coyotes and know there is coon in the area. I do not use offset.I just use regular jaws. That way I get what ever there is there and not tie up the set after.I did had a coon one year did what the OP stated with offset trap and then I change it to a regular jaw and got the coon and no more problems after. When I know that I will only get coyotes in the area then I would use offset jaws.I run a mix line and take what ever there is.Set a snare for beaver and it is normal to get a coyote in the snare.

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Re: Running a mixed coon & canine line [Re: BearB8] #6322898
09/11/18 06:22 PM
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Weston, WI USA
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Thanks for the replies guys!!
That was my biggest concern with using fish in the DP around canine sets also that it would make the canines shy away. All my footholds are offset thats why I wanted to both as long as Im there setting.

Re: Running a mixed coon & canine line [Re: BearB8] #6323038
09/11/18 09:19 PM
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Anytime you're messing around making extra sets for coon you are going to effect your canine catch, just in the time wasted. Back when coon were worth catching I got rid of the offsets. If you are trapping in coon country you can catch them anywhere. There is no way to guess where you might catch a coon. If you want to catch coon along with coyotes get rid of the offsets.

Re: Running a mixed coon & canine line [Re: BearB8] #6323043
09/11/18 09:24 PM
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No here in our habitat any dirthole set may get a coon, coyote, fox, coyote, cat, skunk, possum, badger, you name it. We run a mixed line on purpose because of the variety. Each location gets coon, coyote, and mink sets. We try to set for each specifically on location but catjes get pretty mixed between coyote and coon.
Had one post set two years ago that took two coon first two checks, then a possum, and about a week later it was good for two coyotes. One heck of a circle by then and had to swap out the "post" twice because other one was beyond saving.
I've had no problem taking coyotes after coon catches, and vice versa.
We found to set traps a little farther back from hole or post will take coyotes and hind foot most coon. Haven't had an issue with offsets on hind footed big boars at all. Prefer closed jaw traps myself for coyotes and coon, but we do own a lot of offsets and that is how we set them to take either species with few misses.
Jim

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Re: Running a mixed coon & canine line [Re: BearB8] #6323050
09/11/18 09:29 PM
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I was always a fan of making sets for all available furbearers when targeting one or two main species.Its just not good line management to drive by fur without picking it up.Keep sets simple,not elaborate and you can add sets quickly and easily when the situation dictates.Never found that picking up all the extra fur hampered the harvest of the main target species in any way.Maybe just the way I roll.

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Re: Running a mixed coon & canine line [Re: BearB8] #6323157
09/12/18 12:16 AM
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As has been mentioned DPS along the path of travel to your canine sets are a good option. I have better luck personally blind setting trails coming in to my canine sets along timbers to catch the coon, possum, or skunk before they hit the field. I still catch plenty of incidental coons in coyote sets, but the nice thing is they're dry, fluffy, and a majority of the time they are big boars. I've discussed it a number of times, but a coon caught in a trap.....at least here... will draw the curiosity of the canines in the area. I have often caught coons right next to coyotes, and I have shown pictures of coyotes investigating caught coons in dps.


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Re: Running a mixed coon & canine line [Re: BearB8] #6323305
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Coon are as easy as finding their travelways. Personally I have lost very few coon in offsets. When using a #2, they are usually caught high enough its not an issue. Maybe if you have some of those super wide offsets, it might be. But, when trapping everything from mink to coyotes, I like a 1.75 regular jaw.


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Re: Running a mixed coon & canine line [Re: BearB8] #6323433
09/12/18 12:30 PM
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1/8" offset MB550 will hold a coon. Had a bunch escape a 1/4" offset 650.

Re: Running a mixed coon & canine line [Re: BearB8] #6323524
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With 3/16th offsets I loose very few coon, the coon here arn't huge but larger than southern coon. 1/4 and over that's a different story. It's got alot to do with good swivels and enough chain to give em more freedom.


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Re: Running a mixed coon & canine line [Re: walleye101] #6323594
09/12/18 04:11 PM
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When you use regular jaws you will get what ever there is there and you can count on the one check to help with gas money.Also with more then one set in a area you make it easy to get a coyote and also stop the other animals from getting in your sets that can come up with coyotes.I trap this way for year and I am on all private land and the land owners want all I can take out beside the coyotes because want to have the game birds show up.What I do get adds up for the end of when I sell the furs.


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Re: Running a mixed coon & canine line [Re: BearB8] #6323960
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I always set my coyote traps back a little further than most from the attractant. I get a lot of back foot coon catches this way, but there's still going to be a few front footers that will chew out.

In the real hot coon spots that coyotes are running, I put out DP's where I think the coon will hit them before my good coyote sets. Now, I truly believe a 1 1/2 is a better coon trap than the DP, but I stick with it for the speed setting factor. Coon just aren't worth spending any time on a set right now, which is why I don't want them filling up my coyote sets, either.

I don't think anything is foolproof, but like I and others have said, this should help. Would recommend DP's at your cat sets, too. Good luck with your mixed line. And let us know if you come up with something better.

Re: Running a mixed coon & canine line [Re: BearB8] #6324059
09/13/18 08:36 AM
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While my feet are in Indiana, ...
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Here at home I trap alot of river routes by boat and canoe. I set many a sandbars for canines. I have also got in the habit of setting a couple dog proofs at the same time to catch the coons before they plug up a good flat set. Many a morning I have had a coyote waiting on me with A coon in each dog proof. For years I have thought of putting out a trail camera to see which was caught first.


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Re: Running a mixed coon & canine line [Re: BearB8] #6324063
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I should have looked at REd89's response before I posted. He said it best, I only use DP's for the speed and ease.


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Re: Running a mixed coon & canine line [Re: BearB8] #6324078
09/13/18 08:48 AM
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i will add that i work canine sets one day,and coon one day,not both on the same day as far as working the sets.remakes while checking have their own bag.









Re: Running a mixed coon & canine line [Re: BearB8] #6324703
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Jaggersr, if you ever set the trail cameras, I would sure like to see it. I keep telling myself that I'll buy a few, but cringe at the thought of spending the money. Stupid as it is, because I'm sure I would pick up enough extra fur to more than pay for it the first year.

Re: Running a mixed coon & canine line [Re: BearB8] #6324760
09/14/18 06:09 AM
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Our problem on our line isn't so much coons in coyote sets as it is possums plugging everything up including DPs. Caught a ton of possums in DPs. That is one animal we work to thin first before we can have much fun. Cold late winter is better for coyotes and cats only, but eventually it warms up again and all the rest of the zoo starts running again.
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