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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324159
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loosegoose, do you think all the spending you mentioned is on equal footing?

Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: seniortrap] #6324163
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And Trump will have 6 1/2 more years to get those items changed out. And resend the Obama Executive orders.

Plus work with the Congress to get individual health care available, on a personal choice, not mandated.

Also back of some of the ridicules regulations on the auto industry. Most gasoline autos get great mileage.

With electric cars, that power has to be manufactured someplace in order to charge that Prius etc.

When more people work, more taxes are collected. Thus to pay for the needs/wants of Congress.


How about cutting the actual budget by 5% every year for the next 6 years. And NO 3% raise every year either.

Pay raises in Washington should be held at present for 6 years.

My $.02


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We now take in 5% less in revenue and are spending 7% more than we were before the tax cuts. What happened to the concern for the country's debt? Our children and grandchildren should make us all pay for this mess when they hold the power and are running the country.

We should never cut taxes if the cuts do not come with spending cuts...NEVER

Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324168
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Yup, except for national defense, which the constitution requires. Can you show where the constitution allows for payments to corn farmers, tax breaks for big businesses (I might actually allow that one, there is authority to tax, though tax breaks for corporations are sleazy in my opinion), allows for social security, payment of my medical bills, maybe where it gives permission for the government to buy my food for me, or to fund my retirement? The constitution gives permission for the feds to do certain things; ifit's not an enumerated power, they cant do it. If any industry cant survive on it's own, whether it's farmers, wind and solar companies, auto makers, whatever, then they cant survive. Let other more innovative businesses move in. Both sides of the aisle can and do forget this, it's just a matter of who they'll give the money to. Don't get me wrong, on the original issue of this thread, I'd take a republican over a democrat any day, but that's just because Republicans are running us off the cliff at 90mph where as Democrats are doing it at 100mph. Whn was the last time you heard a nationally recognized republican talk about the federal deficit or national debt? Hardly any since Trumps election, though it was a huge deal when Obama was in office. In reality, it's a huge deal now too.

Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: Fisher Man] #6324169
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Yes, sir, indeed. A few months ago, my son and I took a short vacation to Vermont and rented a car to drive to New York. We did not know how beautiful some of those area's are. When we where going to cross the NY line, I almost could not believe my eyes. There was a big sign saying if you bring a hand gun into the state you where going to jail for a year. Being from Texas, it was quite a shock. That could happen anywhere and of course once they take the guns, America as we know it is done. Once we loose a right of any kind it's almost impossible to get it back.
This election is very important and all of us should do more than our part to elect only strong supporters of the second amendment. I am hoping for another Supreme Court Judge. George Soros and his like are pouring millions into the socialist party, because they know, what's at stake.
People who love America as I do, can't let that happen.




Originally Posted By: Fisherman
This election is far more important for the country as a whole than trapping.

Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324170
09/13/18 10:50 AM
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It doesn't appear to be all that bad. Those doing all the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) are still alive and free. The freedom they do have must be worth a little more than tax cuts for corporations. lol


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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: seniortrap] #6324173
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Originally Posted By: seniortrap

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And Trump will have 6 1/2 more years to get those items changed out. And resend the Obama Executive orders.

Plus work with the Congress to get individual health care available, on a personal choice, not mandated.

Also back of some of the ridicules regulations on the auto industry. Most gasoline autos get great mileage.

With electric cars, that power has to be manufactured someplace in order to charge that Prius etc.

When more people work, more taxes are collected. Thus to pay for the needs/wants of Congress.


How about cutting the actual budget by 5% every year for the next 6 years. And NO 3% raise every year either.

Pay raises in Washington should be held at present for 6 years.

My $.02




He did put a hold on federal employees pay raises. The libs will have to whine about something else.

Guess they did already since we're not talking about pro-gun candidates. wink
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/30/politics/trump-cancels-federal-employee-pay-raises/index.html

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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324177
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Originally Posted By: jtg
Yes, sir, indeed. A few months ago, my son and I took a short vacation to Vermont and rented a car to drive to New York. We did not know how beautiful some of those area's are. When we where going to cross the NY line, I almost could not believe my eyes. There was a big sign saying if you bring a hand gun into the state you where going to jail for a year. Being from Texas, it was quite a shock. That could happen anywhere and of course once they take the guns, America as we know it is done. Once we loose a right of any kind it's almost impossible to get it back.
This election is very important and all of us should do more than our part to elect only strong supporters of the second amendment. I am hoping for another Supreme Court Judge. George Soros and his like are pouring millions into the socialist party, because they know, what's at stake.
People who love America as I do, can't let that happen.




Originally Posted By: Fisherman
This election is far more important for the country as a whole than trapping.


BINGO jtg, Too bad the trolls here overlook this!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: loosegoose] #6324179
09/13/18 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted By: loosegoose
Yup, except for national defense, which the constitution requires. Can you show where the constitution allows for payments to corn farmers, tax breaks for big businesses (I might actually allow that one, there is authority to tax, though tax breaks for corporations are sleazy in my opinion), allows for social security, payment of my medical bills, maybe where it gives permission for the government to buy my food for me, or to fund my retirement? The constitution gives permission for the feds to do certain things; ifit's not an enumerated power, they cant do it. If any industry cant survive on it's own, whether it's farmers, wind and solar companies, auto makers, whatever, then they cant survive. Let other more innovative businesses move in. Both sides of the aisle can and do forget this, it's just a matter of who they'll give the money to. Don't get me wrong, on the original issue of this thread, I'd take a republican over a democrat any day, but that's just because Republicans are running us off the cliff at 90mph where as Democrats are doing it at 100mph. Whn was the last time you heard a nationally recognized republican talk about the federal deficit or national debt? Hardly any since Trumps election, though it was a huge deal when Obama was in office. In reality, it's a huge deal now too.


Would you please take this one. We can't seem to get rid of James' girl.



Who is John Galt?
Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324182
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That ain't no Republican Dirt! lol

Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324221
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she's gotta poop,been there. grin









Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: James] #6324276
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Originally Posted By: James
"Everything we have accomplished..."

Such as?

Specifically, what has been accomplished for trappers by a Republican controlled government?

Jim


^^^^^^EXHIBIT A^^^^^^

Certain Individuals have been Whining, Blatting, and Caterwalling

Since President Trump Took Office And Started Making America Great Again !!!

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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324284
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Here's the skinny on it. In this day and age with the internet and 24hr news, the only people asking what Republicans do for outdoorsmen, DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY DO.

Here's just a couple examples.....

https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/secret...ericas-national

Expanding on Bushs' order....HMMMM, wonder why it wasn't Obamas'?

https://wgno.com/2017/09/15/trump-admin-to-expand-hunting-access-on-public-lands/

Ohh, wait...here's one that Trump changed that Obama ordered....You'd think an Alaskain would've heard this? Probably the outdoorsmen did.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/21/trump-administration-moves-reverse-obama-era-hunti/

Vote for our hunting/trapping rights!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324316
09/13/18 03:06 PM
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That picture of the bear in your Washington Times story looks just like the bear we shot last week in Denali National Preserve. blush

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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324330
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I have a buddy who would just love to shoot one. ME, not so much. I've shot a couple blackies and it just doesn't do anything for me. Them things are heavy to drag and costs me money to get the hide done.

Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324331
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Denali....Isn't that where the big mountain is? McKinely?

There's a hometown boy down a crevass up there. He was guiding and took the big step.

Stump was his last name. Been 30 or more years ago now i guess.

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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324342
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Here's a write-up about him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mugs_Stump

Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: hippie] #6324354
09/13/18 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: hippie
Here's the skinny on it. In this day and age with the internet and 24hr news, the only people asking what Republicans do for outdoorsmen, DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY DO.

Here's just a couple examples.....

https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/secret...ericas-national

Expanding on Bushs' order....HMMMM, wonder why it wasn't Obamas'?

https://wgno.com/2017/09/15/trump-admin-to-expand-hunting-access-on-public-lands/

Ohh, wait...here's one that Trump changed that Obama ordered....You'd think an Alaskain would've heard this? Probably the outdoorsmen did.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/21/trump-administration-moves-reverse-obama-era-hunti/

Vote for our hunting/trapping rights!!!!!!!!!!!!


Didn't he mention wanting to open mining exploration in that area of ANWAR which is compared in size to a postage stamp on a football field. He also opened an area in northern MN that the former administration had put a big nix on for copper-nickel exploration. This will potentially open up 1,000s jobs in that area of the state once approved.


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: hippie] #6324369
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Originally Posted By: hippie
Here's the skinny on it. In this day and age with the internet and 24hr news, the only people asking what Republicans do for outdoorsmen, DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY DO.

Here's just a couple examples.....

https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/secret...ericas-national

Expanding on Bushs' order....HMMMM, wonder why it wasn't Obamas'?

https://wgno.com/2017/09/15/trump-admin-to-expand-hunting-access-on-public-lands/

Ohh, wait...here's one that Trump changed that Obama ordered....You'd think an Alaskain would've heard this? Probably the outdoorsmen did.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/21/trump-administration-moves-reverse-obama-era-hunti/

Vote for our hunting/trapping rights!!!!!!!!!!!!


James might never see this information Hippie. He doesn't like it when folks debunk his "Whining, Blatting, and Caterwalling" with facts. He puts folks that do that on ignore. He's had me on ignore for over a year now and you might soon be on that list (if you're not already there) if you don't knock it off! LOL

In reference to your first link; it doesn't mention it but trapping is allowed on much of the land in the newly expanded National Wildlife Refuge System. Same with the National Parks and monuments land.


Eh...wot?

Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324532
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Lol

Did they answer your question James?

Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: FairbanksLS] #6324636
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Originally Posted By: gray dog
Originally Posted By: James
"Everything we have accomplished..."

Such as?

Specifically, what has been accomplished for trappers by a Republican controlled government?

Jim


I believe trap theft and poaching has decreased dramatically because of the honesty, integrity and morality demonstrated daily by President Trump.


That was a very very very very heavy dose of sarcasm right there! Happy trapping! ScottW

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