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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: James] #6324702
09/14/18 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted By: James
"Everything we have accomplished..."

Such as?

Specifically, what has been accomplished for trappers by a Republican controlled government?

Jim


Well I could speak for the country as a whole, but I'll just speak for me instead. When Obama was in office, I went from working 40 hours a week, with insurance, to 30 hours a week, with no insurance, and being fined $800 a year for not having the insurance his plan took away. I wasn't getting rich before, during or after him... my avg wage for the past 10+ years has been $10/hr. In 2008 I was bringing home about $17k a year, after you took out for insurance and 401k. By 2012, I was bringing home only $14,809 a year after you took out Obamacare fines, and I no longer had health coverage, or a 401k.

So what has changed since then? I'm still working part time, but only because I'm holding off on accepting the full time job that's been given to me until after trapping season. Once I accept that, I will be making $23k a year before deductions for insurance and 401k. I don't know the insurance costs yet but am told it is a great plan. They also match 401k dollar for dollar, start off with 2 weeks of paid vacation plus sick time... and that's from a box store. I'll also be saving $800 a year in a fine I could not afford that I never had to afford before the policy robbed me of my health care, my 401k, and 10 hours a week of work.

Maybe Trump's policies aren't the best for rich lawyers like you James, but they sure are great for common folks like me.

eta:... and that doesn't even include Trump's tax breaks which put even MORE money in my pocket.


~~Proud Ultra MAGA~~
Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324722
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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324742
09/14/18 05:37 AM
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I think that what James meant is what has a Republican controlled government done specifically for a issues relating to trapping.

Well James, on a national level, the Trump administration scaling back some of the national monument areas and wilderness areas has reopened a lot of ground to western trappers.

On a state level here in MN a Republican controlled house and senate has s substantial impact on trappers in MN enjoying the current trapping privileges they enjoy. Substantial! If Governor Goofy and the metro liberals would have had their way the past few years relating to trapping it would have had a negative impact on how we operate.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: ] #6324751
09/14/18 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted By: CAT CHASER
I thought Trappermans rule was no politics?


Looks like money talk to me.


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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324754
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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: pcr2] #6324771
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Originally Posted By: pcr2
first post, crazy


Is about hunting and trapping freedoms.


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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324774
09/14/18 06:27 AM
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Quote:
Specifically, what has been accomplished for trappers by a Republican controlled government?

Jim


Here KS our republican legislature (just like AK) has made it legal to carry without asking permission. Exactly like our federal constitution says we can.

I don't know about anyone else but I had been warned in the past several times for letting a coat hang over my pistol or having it inside my bibs. Never was arrested but warned I could be. If the permission less carry law isn't a boon to trappers I don't know what would be.


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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324869
09/14/18 09:31 AM
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It would appear the Canadian Auction houses are following Trump's lead on getting tough on the Chinese. Well, at least when it comes to selling Alaska marten too cheap. James would know this, if he actually was a trapper.


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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324919
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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324939
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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324954
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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324958
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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6324962
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I notice he was here but didn't acknowledge the answer(s) to his question.

They never do!!!!!! That's why i call them "trolls"

Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6325328
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As soon as I try to give a reasoned response to the trapping-related comments (debating other political issues is not allowed), some individuals will make personal insults and get the thread deleted. Then blame me for the consequences of their own posts.

Like the trolls they are.

Jim


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"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6325361
09/14/18 11:03 PM
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What about Trumps tariffs? They could really put a hurt on fur prices and demand.


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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: mink99] #6325363
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Originally Posted By: mink99
What about Trumps tariffs? They could really put a hurt on fur prices and demand.


Can't really break what's already broken. confused


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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6325404
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Oh, it can get worse.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: jtg] #6325625
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Now if China puts a 100 % tariff on a $30 ranch mink or a $5 coon that means that coon will cost the Chinese buyer (if he don't go back to smuggling) $60 and $10 respectively. Still cheap. Now if those were $100 ranch mink and $20 coon, it would matter.


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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: Steven 49er] #6325647
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Originally Posted By: Steven 49er
Oh, it can get worse.


Steve once a furbearer becomes unprofitable to trap. I don't trap it. If the furbearer is a 5 dollar a pelt loss or a 100 dollar a pelt loss, it is still an animal that will die of natural causes unrelated to me. Right now, the international fur market has nothing to offer me. Similar to the last 30 years with a few exceptions.


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Re: Novembers elections for trappers [Re: James] #6325663
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Originally Posted By: James
As soon as I try to give a reasoned response to the trapping-related comments (debating other political issues is not allowed), some individuals will make personal insults and get the thread deleted. Then blame me for the consequences of their own posts.

Like the trolls they are.

Jim



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