Re: Does law enforcement in your area...
[Re: FlyinFinn]
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09/14/18 02:09 AM
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You're right, I don't know but I doubt it. Law enforcement in my area don't wake up until a family member calls them about a suspicious vehicle. I love our cops. They don't care less about what we're doing 90% of the time, lol.
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Re: Does law enforcement in your area...
[Re: FlyinFinn]
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09/14/18 03:34 AM
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says some cops some of the time. nsa does it to everyone all the time
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Does law enforcement in your area...
[Re: FlyinFinn]
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09/14/18 04:56 AM
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No cops in my area...military is not far though. Not sure theyd find me interesting at all.
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Re: Does law enforcement in your area...
[Re: FlyinFinn]
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09/14/18 06:19 AM
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what about nsa sheepdog? they monitor all electronic communication. email, cell phones, all of it. it is one thing to have agents who monitor public sites like this one for possible crimes and quite another to monitor private communication without warrants.
the excuse of course is that information is only stored till a warrant from a secret court is obtained. the little evidence we have suggests that fisa court has never denied a surveillance request.
we have made a tiny bit of progress restoring the 2nd in spite of many gun owners who still insist reasonable gun control is a real thing.
this flaunting of constitutional privacy law needs to be curtailed quickly if not sooner.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Does law enforcement in your area...
[Re: FlyinFinn]
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09/14/18 06:38 AM
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Hobbie, I have been up all night so I am not sure what you are asking. Who knows what those idiots up there will do after what has been exposed at the top levels of the DOJ. It boils my blood that there have been no indictments for these asinine and illegal, unconstitutional violations of law. Michael Vick was fighting dogs, went to federal prison, Martha Stewart,. insider trading or whatever, lied to FBI went to federal prison. What those two did is miniscule compared to what all of those associated with Obama and the Clintons have been doing for years without consequence.
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Re: Does law enforcement in your area...
[Re: FlyinFinn]
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09/14/18 06:49 AM
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Ours don't, they have a hard time getting text messages from a confiscated phone if you delete the messages before they take it. They do keep track of all kinds of strange info about you though. They keep track of what you do for a job and even how much they make. If they can get your social security number they have access to your past tax info. They also have a de facto gun registration. A couple years ago I bought a new pistol and promptly went to a local lake to try it out. On the drive home a deputy called me and asked if I had just bought a new smith and Wesson .40 and was just shooting it out at a lake, because apparently I was within 200 yards of a house (only by a few yards, the homeowner apparently is a stickler and likes to complain, and I was shooting safely). How in the world would he know what I had and that I just bought it? When you buy a pistol in Lincoln, you have to record the sale with the police department, and apparently they share that info with other agencies.
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Re: Does law enforcement in your area...
[Re: Sheepdog1]
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09/14/18 06:55 AM
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Hobbie, I have been up all night so I am not sure what you are asking. Who knows what those idiots up there will do after what has been exposed at the top levels of the DOJ. It boils my blood that there have been no indictments for these asinine and illegal, unconstitutional violations of law. Michael Vick was fighting dogs, went to federal prison, Martha Stewart,. insider trading or whatever, lied to FBI went to federal prison. What those two did is miniscule compared to what all of those associated with Obama and the Clintons have been doing for years without consequence. I was just curious if those monitoring all of that had reached the point of paranoia that they begin concern about those citizens not putting anything out there to monitor. lol
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Re: Does law enforcement in your area...
[Re: FlyinFinn]
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09/14/18 07:26 AM
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Little black box that the Feds have. If I remember right it taps into the cell tower to get to the phone. I would doubt that any local police have it. Lots of strings attached as far as the 1st goes. I don’t worry about it, because the nsa gets everything already. We can discuss that some other time.
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Re: Does law enforcement in your area...
[Re: Sheepdog1]
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09/14/18 12:55 PM
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Been a cop now going on 30 years and never heard of such a device. If it isn't Ethical, Legal and Moral then it is of no use to me or our Dept. Nor any other Department. When I swore the oath to abide by both the US constitution and the Texas constitution I meant every word I recited. I have no use for info that is obtained unlawfully and in violation of a citizens rights, furthermore, if I knew someone was doing such a thing I would bust their arse. I have a very, very low tolerance for those who tarnish the oath and our duties. X2
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Re: Does law enforcement in your area...
[Re: FlyinFinn]
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09/14/18 01:38 PM
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Listening to phone calls is so easy now , I do it for work , one mirrored switch port and I have a recording of every call coming and going from a building.
the problem is that is a huge file in a few minutes , so you need the software to pull that file apart and save the individual calls.
if you have the access tot he network , and the software you can absolutely record every call , then it is a matter of running the audio files through a voice recognition software.
that said you carry a wire tap with you all the time , you pay good money to install them in your house.
hey Wiretap , I mean Alexa , play Willy Nelson city of new orleans.
while I listen to calls all the time my goal is to keep the file to as little as possible so I have less clutter to deal with I want the call I need the signaling info for it and audio so I can prove what is broken and I want no more.
could people be listening , yes they can , is it easier than ever if you have the right access , yes it is , is it admissible in court , no so most local law enforcement has little use for it.
want to go scary , all these DNA tests to determine family lineage your dna sequence is being given away by other family members a lot of people are figuring out htier families dirty little secrets
sperm doners who gave anonymously are being linked to their 50 children
kids given up for adoption quietly or anonymously are being linked back .
there is no privacy just what is admissible in court for your last 4th amendment protection
the Golden state killer found this out .
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Does law enforcement in your area...
[Re: FlyinFinn]
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09/14/18 02:02 PM
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I wish we had the money some people think we have to blow on toys! LOL When I started they handed me a old S/W with Black Talon ammo and a H&R shotgun that might make a poor to fair club, I tossed that junk in the closet and bought my own gear.
You must be thinking about the Fire Dept they have the shinny stuff and they need it for what they do.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Does law enforcement in your area...
[Re: FlyinFinn]
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09/14/18 02:52 PM
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Nope, local law enforcement in my area doesn't collect and store private cell phone information. But I know who does....
At&T Verizon Sprint T-Mobile U.S. Cellular
Our local law enforcement also doesn't collect, store and sell my private online information to the highest bidder. But I know who does. I'd provide a list but it's too dam long and we all know who they are anyway. We have a well established "Ministry of Information" already in our midst, but we're too busy chasing the big-G red herring to notice or care.
"...in a very few days we succeeded in taking over one hundred beaver, the skins of which were worth ten dollars per pound." Jim Beckwourth (1856)
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Re: Does law enforcement in your area...
[Re: FlyinFinn]
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09/14/18 03:32 PM
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I got a letter just yesterday from a car dealer I never bought anything from in my life that said they were interested in my 2010 Ford F250 as they had people interested in it! Sold that truck years ago has not been in my name for many years how did they get that info I wonder? Log into your Social Security account and see what security info questions they ask you that you never gave them to begin with and see how scary that is~
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Does law enforcement in your area...
[Re: FlyinFinn]
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09/14/18 04:25 PM
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my local department has enough issue storing all the things they are required by ever changing open records laws , the state keeps mandating more and longer but offers no assistance in.
while I agree that records should be open , the requests get ridiculous and have an staff spending a bunch of time each week processing the requests.
if the state wants it collected everything should get sent tot eh state for archival and make a state open records department as a part of DOJ and quit killing every small towns department with the paperwork and let them spend the dollars on patrol.
it would make a whole lot more sense to pay a one time dollar per record number and hand that info off to the state and let them warehouse the info in a way were they can have people who specialize in records management with high speed printers that could print a label cover sheet with postage and it could go in a a envelope or box to ship and not have every small department have to put officer time at it printing hundreds of pages at a time on a small office printer.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Does law enforcement in your area...
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09/14/18 04:26 PM
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Wife just got a cell phone (smart phone) I phone program, she has been bombarded with out of State calls since day 1 from a couple to several a day. My guess is the phone is cheap and the money they make comes from selling her number to whoever will pay the price for it!
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Does law enforcement in your area...
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I couldnt care less.I don't own any of those silly phone computer thingys that anyone can hack. You are aware of the fact that anyone can listen in to phone calls so basically you are accepting the consequences of owning them. Implied consent.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Does law enforcement in your area...
[Re: Boco]
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You are aware of the fact that anyone can listen in to phone calls so basically you are accepting the consequences of owning them. Implied consent. The same is true of smoke signals, Boco.
"...in a very few days we succeeded in taking over one hundred beaver, the skins of which were worth ten dollars per pound." Jim Beckwourth (1856)
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Re: Does law enforcement in your area...
[Re: Camohoyt340]
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Is there a list of agencies that have the device? I read the article but only saw a couple departments listed. This stuff really bothers me. I know that the NSA monitors calls, but for some reason the thought of the county sheriffs and state police being able to listen to my calls and read my texts at will, makes my blood boil. I can’t explain why. Then I hear it all the time “what are you worried about? Do you have something to hide?” Or “I have nothing to hide so I don’t care.” When I hear that stuff being said I can’t help but wonder where we went wrong. I hate losing any bit of freedom. It’s bad enough that my license plate is scanned numerous times a day and my location is cataloged for no reason at all. C’mon people need to wake up. Hate to break it to you, but digital privacy is a myth, at least for the Winstons of the World. Fact.
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Re: Does law enforcement in your area...
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09/14/18 08:12 PM
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Growing up, we had a party line with 4 or5 neighbors on the same line. You soon learned to not say anything over the phone you didn't want repeated, lol. I guess these early lessons make todays worries less to me. I grew up in a small town . didn't have a party line but , it was the old lady spy network . I learned early if you don't want to be seen doing something , don't do it.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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