Re: More work available than there is manpower...
[Re: Larry Baer]
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Corporates need to change their methods on only concentrating on making profit for the rich greedy owners.
Overworking and paying little will never win long term. I have a corporation and own a small company and idiotic ( IMHO ) comments like this one are what makes divisions between good people who would get along fine. I am at work about 70 hours a week plus I farm. There is not enough money made at either job to make a good living. Today I was at my desk at 5:15 making out pay checks, paying unemployment tax, child support for employees, bidding jobs, and I swept the front of our parking lot. I'm leaving at 11:00 to go rake hay. Then it's back to work around 2:00, then in the field around 5:00. Most people out there are well compensated for there jobs and as the person who started this post mentioned it is a workers market right now. You can go about anywhere and make more. It's the same way here. Sounds like Racerboy needs to get off his underpaid _____ and become a greedy rich owner of something other than his millennial woke socialist snowgo. Probably going to get deleted foo that but I'm going to leave my comments on here. I'm tired of taking shots from the peanut gallery and trying to take the high road all the time. I'm in Illinois surrounded by socialist construction workers who think they're hotshots and look at our state. It's the same here OhioBoy. Good people are hard to find. I went though 120 applications for the last person I hired. Most young people who stop by to fill out applications don't want the job they just want the check. I had one kid show up in pajamas... I need help now and am paying more than a lot of other places here but it's like you said and sometimes the person you hired is not the same one who shows up on their first day.... People don't leave jobs for money - they leave for other reasons. For all you guys looking at the job market- good luck. Now is the time to top off your retirements and make good money. Get out there and see the country if you want to. Dude you are more corporate corrupt then you realize. I did my time owning businesses and am semi retired by doing so. But I did it on my own breaking my own butt. Take your high and mighty attitude and speculations of others and open your eyes to the big corporates that have ruined today's workers by playing the whole it's all about profit and not caring about the workers.
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Re: More work available than there is manpower...
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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It's not a "workers" market yet. When compensation goes up another 15 or 20 percent it will be close.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: More work available than there is manpower...
[Re: Steven 49er]
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It's not a "workers" market yet. When compensation goes up another 15 or 20 percent it will be close. Almost lost another guy today. They lose too many more and they'll have to look at offering per diem. Of course they don't want to do that... Buuuuutttt that's what happens when people have options. Mike
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Re: More work available than there is manpower...
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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09/14/18 05:41 PM
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Too bad the workers wont be able to afford anything when the price of goods and services reflects the extra production cost of goods and services.(guess what that does to the debt).
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Re: More work available than there is manpower...
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Wages go up 20% then everyone will cry about inflation, then cry about interest rates. You're putting the buggy before the horse. Wages don't drive inflation, inflation drives wages.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: More work available than there is manpower...
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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Wages aren't any factor in inflation. It's cause and effect by an increase in the money supply.
The M1 monetary base, which is money that is available for circulation at any given time is at about 3.6 trillion dollars right now. In 2000 it was 600 billion.
Government deficit spending and Federal Reserve policies are what creates real inflation under a fiat system.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: More work available than there is manpower...
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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Good help is the biggest problem for me as I re-start my remodeling business. I have done landscaping by myself for years now because help was such a big problem.
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Re: More work available than there is manpower...
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09/14/18 09:25 PM
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Corporates need to change their methods on only concentrating on making profit for the rich greedy owners.
Overworking and paying little will never win long term. If you are good at what you do , set up your own company. If you are not, then shut up and get your nose to the grindstone until you learn enough to be good at what you do. I am a one man outfit. Charge a 100 bucks per hour minimum for my time. Don't like that??? fine go some other place. I am booked out till December without taking on new work. If ya do't like the pace and responsibility. Hey ya can always push carts around for wally world
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Re: More work available than there is manpower...
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Wages aren't any factor in inflation. It's cause and effect by an increase in the money supply.
The M1 monetary base, which is money that is available for circulation at any given time is at about 3.6 trillion dollars right now. In 2000 it was 600 billion.
Government deficit spending and Federal Reserve policies are what creates real inflation under a fiat system. Correct Unless it's a mandatory pay increase that isn't created by supply and demand. Such as lefty mandatory min wage of 15$
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Re: More work available than there is manpower...
[Re: OhioBoy]
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We hire 100 people and by the first day of work your down to 20 if your lucky. After exams background checks and drug testing.
Then the first day only half of them show up.
Then half them don't last two weeks.
A year later your lucky to have 2 or 3 of them still there.
I bet we do that every month or more often. Used to be if you didn't work you faced the real possibility of going hungry. If that were still the case most of these people would show up.
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Re: More work available than there is manpower...
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Corporates need to change their methods on only concentrating on making profit for the rich greedy owners.
Overworking and paying little will never win long term. If you are good at what you do , set up your own company. If you are not, then shut up and get your nose to the grindstone until you learn enough to be good at what you do. I am a one man outfit. Charge a 100 bucks per hour minimum for my time. Don't like that??? fine go some other place. I am booked out till December without taking on new work. If ya do't like the pace and responsibility. Hey ya can always push carts around for wally world Your small potato to see what's happening in the big corporate world. I was self employed my whole life except my military time. I owned several successful businesses working right along my workers and I paid them and treated them right. Some of them worked for me for years. I set myself up financially secure by age 45. I choose to slow down and enjoy life more. I backed off and consider myself semi retired. I get some of you guys being defensive on owning your own corporation but what I think you don't see is how the big corporations are being run. Not all but a lot of big corporations quit caring about their workers. A friend of mine in the corporate world is sick of his job dealing with higher management pushing for more profit with less workers. His management in the past refused to hire anyone until they were down 15 workers out of a 60 position dept. It was their way of saving money and making the workers work harder. He said in 8 years he has gone through 7 supervisors and over 300 workers. He was constantly training. First it was college kids, then they had to use temp agencies, then convicts and now the immigrant word keeps coming up. He is walking away himself now which I can't blame him. This is not a isolated business as a lot of them think this way. To me it's just karma catching up to their greed. This business had the workers but didn't take care of them and now they are whining no one wants to work. This might not be what Mike's situation is but this is what some of the big corporates have been doing for years.
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