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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ? [Re: kyron4] #6343444
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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ? [Re: kyron4] #6343458
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When I bought most of my bait and lure, I used small amounts. I could stretch a pint of bait a looong ways.

Since I’ve started making and using my own stuff almost exclusively, the amounts used at a set have grown (especially with bait).

I also kill more coyotes now.

I’m not an OG groupie, but he talks about the greed effect of big baits and large amounts of bait. And I agree.

Make em think there’s a REAL MEAL down there.

It’s not uncommon for me to put one or two heaping tablespoons down a hole depending on what I’m using.

Most of my personal baits are on the “mild” side. Same with lure. I’m not a fan of real loud stuff AT the set.

Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ? [Re: kyron4] #6343475
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I've often wondered if with coyotes keen sense of smell they could get an idea if there was a mouth full of bait down the hole or just a dab.. If they can judge the amount with their nose then I would think if the bait is edible then more would be more enticing.
PS I've been fortunate to get use some of Boone's baits and lures and can verify that he knows what he's doing.

Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ? [Re: kyron4] #6344380
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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ? [Re: kyron4] #6348229
10/15/18 03:01 PM
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When testing I use a little less than the size of a kidney bean.




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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ? [Re: kyron4] #6348276
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I have been of a opinion
If a dead horse or cow put off that much stink you are not going to spook them because of smell.
There is other reasons why they spook
But more down the hole imo holds there interest longer.
I put the same amount on a flat set as a dirthole.
Being cheap will cost in the end imo

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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ? [Re: kyron4] #6348343
10/15/18 06:28 PM
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Same as Beav

Prepared baits are different - don't use as much

Whole deer head crammed down a big dirthole 3' deep. If you dig it right they will never get it out but they will keep trying till they get caught over and over.


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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ? [Re: kyron4] #6349318
10/16/18 08:29 PM
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If i had to pay 80+ bucks a gallon for it i might use a teasoon at most per set. The bait i make from free things..a big plastic stirring spoon full. I do better with my own bait, could be because i use more. Its also always hot so i gotta put extra in for the fire ants and bugs to keep them busy. If its fresh bait like a dead chicken. then i chop off a chunk about like a baseball or bigger. I once used a whole baby hog head down a hole, caught 2 coyotes before the buzzards got to it. Then there was the time i used a used tampon, but you wouldnt believe me.


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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ? [Re: kyron4] #6349434
10/16/18 10:17 PM
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Seriously possum man? Bait and lure holder all in one?
Hmmm...


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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ? [Re: jabNE] #6349895
10/17/18 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: jabNE
Seriously possum man? Bait and lure holder all in one?
Hmmm...


Yes. I sure did that about a year and a half ago. Tossed it down a dirthole and it took about a week for one to hit it and it turned out to be a terribly mangy coyote. But it worked. No lure or anything just a fresh used tampon. My next trick is to see if i can catch one with a stinky shoe down a hole.

I did that to prove a point (to myself mostly) that coyotes really dont care about human scent at a set. Heck i set a dozen traps yesterday and i was sweating so hard i was soaked through and through. Sweat was pouring off me all over the set, and i caught one last night. Just gotta have something down the hole they care about more than human scent.

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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ? [Re: kyron4] #6350014
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I've been one of those always trying to use the minimum amount and make it go further types. Bait, lure, urine. Haven't tried a lot of different things, but I am fairly convinced that it takes more than a faint odor to pull most yotes directly onto the set. I want him beyond interested or curious, I want him attempting to get what is in the hole. I want that yote drooling before he reaches the set. Mind on one thing, what's in the hole. And, if he's half-way across a section, I want him to know just where to find what he's smelling. Doesn't have to be that loud or putrid, but it needs to have a smell that carries. I'm in the more is better, in most situations, camp. A heaping table spoon is a good start.


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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ? [Re: kyron4] #6573509
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I doubt the smell carries as far as you make it sound cfowler. I'm not saying it won't work, but I don't think they're smelling it from that far away.

Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ? [Re: kyron4] #6573983
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I don’t mean to hijack this thread, but why is it that you can easily over-lure a set to the point where a coyote will shy away, but you can use much more commercial bait that also gives off a strong odor? I’ve seen some people use a dap of lure, and a tablespoon of bait at the same set. Just curious. Thanks


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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ? [Re: kyron4] #6574080
07/15/19 01:19 AM
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I know for a fact that on a cold clear night a coyote can smell a Ford rusting over a mile away. Lol


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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ? [Re: kyron4] #6574203
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Lure is the smell of another animal that has come through. Bait however is a food offering. Im sure you can try all you like but your going to get worse then a rotting carcass


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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ? [Re: kyron4] #6574404
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Imo if your bait is something natural that would or could be found or stolen by mr. Coyote on a regular basis than I don't think you can use too much. But if there are unnatural additives then you have a lure bait combination, I think you could use to much.


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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ? [Re: kyron4] #6574405
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Now would time of season have an affect on how much you use? Say during deer season using more to pull them away from gut piles? Then when hard winter hits use less because they might be hard pressed for food? Or do I have it backwards?

Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ? [Re: kyron4] #6574412
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I peed in the pipe, nothing else. It worked. It shouldn't matter how much bait down the hole if we are on location. Last season I used less bait and lure than ever and matched my personal best on coyotes. A tablespoon was plenty. A bit of trailing scent does not hurt a bit. Beef blood works great as a trailer.

Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ? [Re: coalbank] #6574656
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Originally Posted by coalbank
I It shouldn't matter how much bait down the hole if we are on location.


This ^^^

Lure and bait are always a secondary reason to be at my sets....Many are blind sets with no smell attraction, and the animals were going to be there anyhow.

When I do use bait it's a glob about the size of a small pecan down a deep 1/2 inch hole, and I want them digging for a while to get to it.

Bait makers usually say use 2 -3 tablespoons, and that's probably what I would say too, if I were selling bait....If you have to pull your animals from long distance, there are far better LDC call lures to serve that purpose.

You just don't need big holes, and a shovel full of bait, if you can identify funnels, crossings, barriers, etc. and let the animals show you the runs they use... IMHO
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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ? [Re: kyron4] #6574677
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The pro baitmakers I've bought from have not said to use ~3 tablespoons.

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