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Bottom edge set without lugging bricks ? #6342954
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My coni mounts on bricks get pretty heavy on a "on foot line", how much weight is really needed to keep trap stable and keep from loosing a catch in current. Thinking of using 4" x 9" pieces of 1/4" steel, much lighter than bricks. Any other ideas ? -Thanks

Re: Bottom edge set without lugging bricks ? [Re: kyron4] #6342992
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Hagz brackets or lefler stabilzers or sticks.

Re: Bottom edge set without lugging bricks ? [Re: kyron4] #6343001
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Lefler Stabilizers. I use the short ones. Ideal and lightweight. Same ones Bob Noonan uses on the Bottom Edge Set

Re: Bottom edge set without lugging bricks ? [Re: MINK I LOVE] #6343024
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bricks get pretty heavy on a "on foot line"
Stoe bricks at locations year to year. Carry once, pre-season work.
Hide brick nearby set (above high water mark). It's there when needed. Hide it nearby after the season.

Re: Bottom edge set without lugging bricks ? [Re: kyron4] #6343058
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Yep, stash once then move nearby to high ground after season and pulling traps. Put them next to a tree so you can easy find them...and generally trees won't get mowed or plowed up right next to base by farmer. If a fencerow nearby that's a good place to stash them too.
Also those little MB coni mount brackets that you can nail or screw onto something...they are cheap, light, and if you can do a cordless and pocket full of short screws those can easily be attached to side of a long stick and shove that into bottom of stream, make great cheap stabilizer and can do them right on site. Heck even just carry a screwdriver (to save weight) and use that to attach the bracket with the screws. Put stick into bottom first to see where to put the mount, then pull it up and attach a coni mount bracket, set trap, put the stabilizer right where you need it.
Jim

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Re: Bottom edge set without lugging bricks ? [Re: kyron4] #6343099
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Use a JL stablizer from Jerry Lebeau of Maine. Lean a rock onto the spring and tie off with wire to a nearby sapling or root.

Re: Bottom edge set without lugging bricks ? [Re: MINK I LOVE] #6343115
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Originally Posted By: MINK I LOVE
Lefler Stabilizers. I use the short ones. Ideal and lightweight. Same ones Bob Noonan uses on the Bottom Edge Set


This ^^^^

Know you have a stake and a stabilizer all rolled Into one. And the can set the trap so the jaws aren't being shoved In to the bottom. Which I believe will slow down the closing of the trap.

Stashing stuff from year to year Is a good Idea. But In some cases stream banks change from season to season.

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Re: Bottom edge set without lugging bricks ? [Re: kyron4] #6343306
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An 18 inch 1/2 rebar stake stabalizes and anchors. Or a stick or 2.


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Re: Bottom edge set without lugging bricks ? [Re: kyron4] #6343462
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KB stabilizers work on bottom edge sets

Re: Bottom edge set without lugging bricks ? [Re: kyron4] #6343482
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Great system for B&E sets


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Re: Bottom edge set without lugging bricks ? [Re: kyron4] #6343659
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[lefler stabilizers] thanks I never knew what the name of those are! I made a pile of those 4' tall for rat trapping and love them guess I should make a few 12" tall ones! It will sure beat the stick method i currently use


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Re: Bottom edge set without lugging bricks ? [Re: kyron4] #6343695
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Lord,all these gizmos for the bottom edge set. If the bottom is too gravelly or Rocky to shove a stick in I use a t-bar with a point and slip it thru the chain ring and work it into the bottom in between the springs just like a stick.I think my t-bars are 3/8 inch thick and 18 in long though I don't have one right now to measure. Never lost a critter. It's a hard set to spot for Johnny sneakum if near the road too.

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Re: Bottom edge set without lugging bricks ? [Re: MINK I LOVE] #6343710
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Originally Posted By: MINK I LOVE
Lefler Stabilizers. I use the short ones. Ideal and lightweight. Same ones Bob Noonan uses on the Bottom Edge Set


What is the Lefler Stabilizers ? Are they the same as a "H" stand ? -Thanks

Re: Bottom edge set without lugging bricks ? [Re: kyron4] #6343789
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set a flat rock on the spring and it adds a spot for them to look for food.









Re: Bottom edge set without lugging bricks ? [Re: kyron4] #6343865
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In lots of situations you would be looking for hours to find a rock.


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Re: Bottom edge set without lugging bricks ? [Re: kyron4] #6343881
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Originally Posted By: kyron4
Originally Posted By: MINK I LOVE
Lefler Stabilizers. I use the short ones. Ideal and lightweight. Same ones Bob Noonan uses on the Bottom Edge Set


What is the Lefler Stabilizers ? Are they the same as a "H" stand ? -Thanks


Not like an H Stand at all. They have 1 Leg to push into the Ground and seperates into the Trap holding area a few inches above. Very small and lightweight to fit in very tight Bottom Edges where Mink and Muskrat swim.

I get mine from the Snare Shop in State Center Iowa. If you just go to their Website www.SnareShop.com you should be good to go. Not Expensive at all.

Re: Bottom edge set without lugging bricks ? [Re: The Beav] #6343889
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
In lots of situations you would be looking for hours to find a rock.
not here,and if there isn't any rocks so be it you use a stabilizer.aka the 6 in carriage bolt opp. the spring.

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Re: Bottom edge set without lugging bricks ? [Re: kyron4] #6344121
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I use what is on site for hold and tie my trap off to.There is always something that is near the site. Just need something solid to tie off to and just something to hold the trap in place till the trap is set off so just something to hold the trap in place. It works for me.


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Re: Bottom edge set without lugging bricks ? [Re: The Beav] #6344622
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Cant find a rock in hours......LMFAO. No wonder you guys out there make pocket sets.....If I cant find a rock, that means its soft enough to use a stick, no problems here that I know of using the rock/stick method. I like spiked conis and have had to poke them in 6-8 times to avoid the rock.

Re: Bottom edge set without lugging bricks ? [Re: lumberjack391] #6344666
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Originally Posted By: lumberjack391
Cant find a rock in hours......LMFAO. No wonder you guys out there make pocket sets.....If I cant find a rock, that means its soft enough to use a stick, no problems here that I know of using the rock/stick method. I like spiked conis and have had to poke them in 6-8 times to avoid the rock.


Yep, my traps are already on a stake sideways. Soft bottoms are the easy ones. I have both kinds and some in between. Rocky creeks I have to improvise. I quit using the spiked conis for that reason, too many places the spike won't go in. Laying a flat rock on the spring works good, or if it's a run, sometimes I lay the stake crossways, so the trap is hanging, and pile rocks on the stake.


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