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Re: Old Long Spring Users [Re: cfowler] #6338753
10/02/18 06:02 PM
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So a couple pics and some explanation. The longspring with cable on chain is a #0 I have had on the wall for 30 years. I know that because it still had my address name tag from the other house. I have rigged a half dozen like that for sets in a cattail marsh, that basically you just keep pushing the stake down. I retired last year and trapped more than I was willing to put the effort into for decades. The old stoploss was from a dozen I bought in the early 80's from a guy, and only used the one. Every other stoploss I owned had longer chain, and I wanted a short chained rig in a small road culvert near my house. That trap has caught muskrats, mink, and coon with the slide on the rod hiding them all. A 3 foot rebar stake in the round on end has kept the whole works in my possesion for these ten or twelve years I have done this. Cfowler asked about the rod on end of #1 B&L Stoploss and the one pic shows what I do, don't bury it into the trap, I use it to help loose jaw sit flat, takes the pressure off. joepennanti wants to trap weasels, the American Trapper from May-June article about BMP traps said 1 1/2 Long spring passes for weasel killer trap. I would not use the #0, from what I have read the marten trappers liked them because they were lighter by the dozen when they ran traps with snow shoes in the old days.


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Re: Old Long Spring Users [Re: cfowler] #6338815
10/02/18 07:29 PM
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Cool stuff Fishdog! Is the drowner lock made from half a long-spring spring?


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Re: Old Long Spring Users [Re: cfowler] #6339561
10/03/18 06:20 PM
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Warm windy day. Good day for dying and waxing traps if ya have the time. I got a few that needs done, but just been too busy today.


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Re: Old Long Spring Users [Re: cfowler] #6342179
10/07/18 01:24 AM
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victor 1.5 are great coon traps IMO I pick them up every chance I get found a bunch at antiques shops cheap like $4 per

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Re: Old Long Spring Users [Re: motrapping] #6342470
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Originally Posted By: motrapping
victor 1.5 are great coon traps IMO I pick them up every chance I get found a bunch at antiques shops cheap like $4 per

Haven't used them for coon specifically, but manage to pick up a few in them myself. I like the older cast jaw victors in 1.5 long. Gonna try a few #1 cast jaws for a mink this season.


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Re: Old Long Spring Users [Re: cfowler] #6342642
10/07/18 06:21 PM
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Just got my #3s back from my welder buddy. Im really looking forward to seeing how they do this year.



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Re: Old Long Spring Users [Re: cfowler] #6342656
10/07/18 06:34 PM
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Are the new Blake & Lamb #11s good they look better than the new victors

Re: Old Long Spring Users [Re: cfowler] #6342664
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Nice work your buddy did Rattrapper88. Cats or yotes step on the pans, and they ought to be yours. Nice traps.

I don't know about the new B&L #11's motrapping. Have some Victor double jaws I bought new a couple years ago. They're good traps I think. I've caught coon, mink, rats, and otter in them.


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Re: Old Long Spring Users [Re: joepennanti] #6342668
10/07/18 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: joepennanti
Found a video comparing the speed of Longspring vs Coilspring Foothold Traps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3JzYPNl0vE

Thanks for sharing the link. I found it interesting. Not convincing, except with those two particular Bridger traps. Jaw weight, spring strength, eye-opening size, there are several variables that come into play with the mechanics of the long-spring trap. I have no clue whether over-all coils are faster or not. Don't think it really matters to me, long as I'm not looking at sprung traps. It was an interesting analysis though.


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Re: Old Long Spring Users [Re: Rattrapper88] #6343551
10/08/18 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted By: Rattrapper88
Just got my #3s back from my welder buddy. Im really looking forward to seeing how they do this year.



those are going to be awsome!

Re: Old Long Spring Users [Re: Rattrapper88] #6344466
10/10/18 02:06 AM
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Do you like that twisted chain better than machine chain

Re: Old Long Spring Users [Re: rednecktrapper] #6344471
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Originally Posted By: rednecktrapper
Dogless conversions are not too difficult, but they are time consuming, and you need access to the right equipment. (Welder/Mill)



lol I asked Kendal when he was going to offer a dogless kit for the old longs.im not going to hold my breath. I don't believe he was amused by the idea!


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