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FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA #6345578
10/11/18 10:59 PM
10/11/18 10:59 PM
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GFW - GROENEWOLD Offline OP
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Guy is in China meeting with customers. He will be giving a live update on Facebook. This will happen on Saturday 10/13 at 7 PM CENTRAL TIME.

Please let us know any questions you have on trapperman, Facebook, or Instagram and he will be happy to answer them.

Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6345583
10/11/18 11:05 PM
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why don't you buy PA fur??


quality over quantity

Hickory Garden Farms
Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6345591
10/11/18 11:17 PM
10/11/18 11:17 PM
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Green Bay, Wisconsin
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They do. Ship it to them, they'll look it over and call you with a price. If you like the price, they'll mail you a check. If not, they'll ship the fur back to you on their dime.

Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6345596
10/11/18 11:25 PM
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the buy 6 miles from my house but in ny and i was told the wouldn't buy PA fur from guys that said they tried.i have a ny tag also and can go that route it was more of interest why they skirt PA.figured it was our regs.


quality over quantity

Hickory Garden Farms
Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6345604
10/11/18 11:35 PM
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Ive sold them fur numerous times.

Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6345614
10/11/18 11:58 PM
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What name do you go by on Facebook?

Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6345633
10/12/18 12:35 AM
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so.....and it begins...


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6345792
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6345927
10/12/18 03:32 PM
10/12/18 03:32 PM
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Pottawatamie co. IA
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At 34 minutes you said they had a 32% tariff and we live with that. Why? Guy I am not ok with 37.5% tariff on my fur. If they need us as trading partners they should stop these silly tariffs and then you could give me 37.5% more for my good heavy IA coon! The only ones that are hurt by tariffs are the trappers. Being ok with my money is never ok with me. LLL


"Opportunity is missed by most because it is dressed in waders and looks like work." Thomas Edison (except for the waders part)
Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA [Re: LLtrapper] #6345934
10/12/18 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: LLtrapper
At 34 minutes you said they had a 32% tariff and we live with that. Why? Guy I am not ok with 37.5% tariff on my fur. If they need us as trading partners they should stop these silly tariffs and then you could give me 37.5% more for my good heavy IA coon! The only ones that are hurt by tariffs are the trappers. Being ok with my money is never ok with me. LLL


I think you’re taking his point out of context.

He’s living with it as in they’re dealing with it, making due.

You asked Why?

It’s not like Groney has any say or influence in the tariffs, doesn’t sound like they support it at all, but that’s the cards their business has been dealt.

It’s Groenewold’s best interest to be able to pay as much as possible for raccoons as long as they can hit their profit margins as well. The more they pay the more business they will generate.

Lack of end user and a weakening chinese economy is not helping any of that.

Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6345940
10/12/18 04:04 PM
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They may not give you 37.5% more for your fur. They may sell their finished product for 37.5% less.

I like to think of taxes as another middleman like a furbuyer. smile

Last edited by Dirt; 10/12/18 04:11 PM.

Who is John Galt?
Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA [Re: Gary Benson] #6345943
10/12/18 04:11 PM
10/12/18 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted By: Gary Benson
so.....and it begins...


Hey,

Waddaya mean SO ? laugh

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Member: New York State Trappers Association,
Oswego County Trappers Association,
Jefferson County Fur Harvesters.

I Support Non-Resident Trapping

Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA [Re: Nick C] #6345944
10/12/18 04:12 PM
10/12/18 04:12 PM
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Pottawatamie co. IA
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Originally Posted By: Nick C
Originally Posted By: LLtrapper
At 34 minutes you said they had a 32% tariff and we live with that. Why? Guy I am not ok with 37.5% tariff on my fur. If they need us as trading partners they should stop these silly tariffs and then you could give me 37.5% more for my good heavy IA coon! The only ones that are hurt by tariffs are the trappers. Being ok with my money is never ok with me. LLL


I think you’re taking his point out of context.

He’s living with it as in they’re dealing with it, making due.

You asked Why?

It’s not like Groney has any say or influence in the tariffs, doesn’t sound like they support it at all, but that’s the cards their business has been dealt.

It’s Groenewold’s best interest to be able to pay as much as possible for raccoons as long as they can hit their profit margins as well. The more they pay the more business they will generate.

Lack of end user and a weakening chinese economy is not helping any of that.
That is the point of a tariff I believe. To change behavior. Saying you can live with a tariff imposed on you because it has been that way a long time is really stating why it needs to be done even more. Zero tariffs would be better for both. I am not interested in handing billions of dollars to a government that don't use money for their people and instead use it for their war machine but that is another conversation. A producer of raw fur has seen it below input cost and somehow that is ok as long as we bolster the hand of our enemy. I understand now. LLL


"Opportunity is missed by most because it is dressed in waders and looks like work." Thomas Edison (except for the waders part)
Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6345945
10/12/18 04:14 PM
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Pottawatamie co. IA
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Also I asked why we put up with it as a country not why GFW does. LLL


"Opportunity is missed by most because it is dressed in waders and looks like work." Thomas Edison (except for the waders part)
Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA [Re: LLtrapper] #6345947
10/12/18 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: LLtrapper
Also I asked why we put up with it as a country not why GFW does. LLL


Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Donald trying to force China to remove tariffs? The reason people put up with export tariffs is because we are consumers not producers.


Who is John Galt?
Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6345949
10/12/18 04:29 PM
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Groeny rocks,no one else gonna say it i will.i am only asking about the PA fur cause i'm looking at every way to market MY wild fur any way i can.i have a NY lisc. as i said so i will go that route,no pun intended.


quality over quantity

Hickory Garden Farms
Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA [Re: PSB1011] #6345950
10/12/18 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: PSB1011
Ive sold them fur numerous times.

don't holler at me Phil,i'm sensative. grin.after 2 weeks of scouting for coyotes i'm starting to think all your reds moved up here to get away from you.good day,i'll shut up now.


quality over quantity

Hickory Garden Farms
Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA [Re: LLtrapper] #6345971
10/12/18 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: LLtrapper
Also I asked why we put up with it as a country not why GFW does. LLL


Im all for ending all tarrifs. Especially on soybeans and raccoons.

What do you suggest GFW does as a business with the tarrifs they face?

Are you just complaining or do you have an actual idea of how to overcome this obstacle?

Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6345981
10/12/18 05:32 PM
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I took offense to him implying that he wants business as usual is and that's ok. He is making money now and we are just "trapping for the fun".


Dirt I will correct you. We as trappers and the American farmer are producers. LLL


"Opportunity is missed by most because it is dressed in waders and looks like work." Thomas Edison (except for the waders part)
Re: FACEBOOK LIVE MARKET UPDATE DIRECT FROM CHINA [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6345987
10/12/18 05:47 PM
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If people would stop trapping for the fun of it and then pretty much giving away their fur, only then might the coon market pick up again..Why should anybody pay when they can visit this site and read post after post about trappers not caring what money they get.

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