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DP conibear #6346633
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Can someone post a picture of such a set? I have a spot with a dog in the area. I'd like to set a 160 BG in a wire cubbie, but my better judgement tells me that may not be a wise idea. It's a good location though for a dp conibear set, where the coon has to set off the dp in order for the conibear to go off. I don't know any person or business selling this setup (I suspect people home make them).

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If it has to set off the DP to set off the coni. Why use a coni. His foot is in a DP already. Right?

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Re: DP conibear [Re: AJE] #6346637
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It has the advantage of a BG but the safety of a DP.
You're right in that the BG aspect isn't necessary. The quick action benefit of the BG is why I think some guys use them.

I should have mentioned: I'm referring to a spot where it's possible others could see the animal moving around in a dp.

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Re: DP conibear [Re: AJE] #6346643
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im not understanding the reasoning behind this! So your saying you want to double catch it. I don't get the logic of tying up two traps for one critter. Im sure you got a reason help us understand

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Re: DP conibear [Re: AJE] #6346647
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Sounds like he doesn't want to possibly catch the dog but also doesn't want a live coon making ramen. Anyhow someone here actually had a 220 stat up that was completely dog proof, I'll lol around and see if I cn find it

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I know a well known trapper that circumvents the law by doing something similar. He catches the coon In a foot hold. Then has a 160 box within reach. The coon dives Into the box Is killed and the 24 hour check laws don't come into play.
I'm betting that if you staked down a fair sized box and gave that DP caught coon enough chain It would be hiding In that box when you showed up.


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Re: DP conibear [Re: AJE] #6346735
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Never heard of it...

Re: DP conibear [Re: AJE] #6346740
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A 12" roof/overhang on the cubby has kept me from catching several dogs IME.


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Re: DP conibear [Re: yukonal] #6346763
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I've seen several times where people on tMan have talked about them.

Re: DP conibear [Re: Wolfdog91] #6346766
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Originally Posted By: Wolfdog91
Sounds like he doesn't want to possibly catch the dog but also doesn't want a live coon making ramen. Anyhow someone here actually had a 220 stat up that was completely dog proof, I'll lol around and see if I cn find it
Largely I don't want a coon dancing around for all to see. There's spots, even in some backyards, where people wouldn't notice a coon in a BG, but if it was wrestling around a catch circle they could.

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So why not just an elevated 160 in a box?

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Is a coon hanging from a 160 in a tree too visible?

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Vertical bucket set

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DP on a slide wire?


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Re: DP conibear [Re: Ditchdiver] #6346961
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Originally Posted By: Ditchdiver
DP on a slide wire?
I've thought of this. It'd be an option in certain situations.

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Originally Posted By: eastwood44mag
Vertical bucket set
Like 1 of those upside down flower pot sets that I've heard about on here before?

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Originally Posted By: Hutchy
Is a coon hanging from a 160 in a tree too visible?
Could be, in some situations. Though it's 1 option.

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Doren sells, sonny hootmans 220 DP box. Sounds like this is what your looking for. They do work !

Re: DP conibear [Re: The Beav] #6347153
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
I know a well known trapper that circumvents the law by doing something similar. He catches the coon In a foot hold. Then has a 160 box within reach. The coon dives Into the box Is killed and the 24 hour check laws don't come into play.
I'm betting that if you staked down a fair sized box and gave that DP caught coon enough chain It would be hiding In that box when you showed up.


What state is that in Beav?

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It's In a state that has no check laws on Dry land BGs.

The Inverted bucket set is for sure dog proof but It's also pretty much coon proof.


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Re: DP conibear [Re: AJE] #6347172
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Make a wooden cubby box....recess the 160 12", make sure the opening is no bigger than 60 square inches, and stake it down. This is what I use and no dog will get in there.

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Originally Posted By: cat4fish
Miller fur co. Clarksville, MO 573-242-3319
Doren sells, sonny hootmans 220 DP box. Sounds like this is what your looking for. They do work !
That does sound like what I'm after. Except it would need to be for a 160 BG in Wi. I'll try to get ahold of them. Thanks

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Originally Posted By: pass-thru
Make a wooden cubby box....recess the 160 12", make sure the opening is no bigger than 60 square inches, and stake it down. This is what I use and no dog will get in there.
I might ponder this 1. None of my cubbies have a 12" recession, but I could modify 1.

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Like 1 of those upside down flower pot sets that I've heard about on here before?


I'll see if I can find a video

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I think you can use a 220 as long It's recessed 7"


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Re: DP conibear [Re: AJE] #6348116
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Originally Posted By: AJE
Originally Posted By: Ditchdiver
DP on a slide wire?
I've thought of this. It'd be an option in certain situations.


ive done it on rebar drowning rods works very well. never had one alive and waiting for me.

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I have used a square kitty liter bucket with slots resessed six inches using a 160 bg. I also place the lid on the bucket with a round six inch hole in the lid ,with the bottom of the hole hugging the ground. Rear of the bucket drill a half inch whole from top to bottom and attach the chain or cable to a 2 foot rebar and pin it to the ground to stake. Dog proof as it’s gonna get.

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Originally Posted By: The Beav
I think you can use a 220 as long It's recessed 7"
Yeah, there is some sort of exception like that. I'm unaware of the specifics of that portion of law, offhand though.

I looked up Doren online, and called him today. Cat4fish mentioned him above. He sells dp coniboxes, but only for 220s. He said they work really slick, but aren't set up for 160's. Maybe I'll study our 220 recession law and consider calling him to see how his are set up. It may be legal depending on the box size and where the 220 sits in the box. He sounded like a great guy on the phone. We had a good conversation.

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I believe WI law now allows 220 BG if it is recessed 10"

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The DP coni boxes aren't recessed. But there made out of metal and a guy could bolt on wings top,and sides to make it recessed. Just an idea. Doren and family are great people to deal with. They've given a lot to the trapping community.I always buy something at convention to patronize them.

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I think It's 15" In a non baited or non lured situation.
I'm betting If you build a box with a 160 or no 160 the coon will be In that box. Just give It enough chain and stake the box down so It can't move.
When we were live catching coon all we did was place the transfer cage up close to the coon and It would run right In the box. Then we would close the door as far as we could and pull out the foot and trap and release the coon and close the door. It even worked on red fox. You just need to have enough chain for It to work.

Give it a shot.


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Re: DP conibear [Re: cat4fish] #6560370
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Originally Posted by cat4fish
The DP coni boxes aren't recessed. But there made out of metal and a guy could bolt on wings top,and sides to make it recessed. Just an idea. Doren and family are great people to deal with. They've given a lot to the trapping community.I always buy something at convention to patronize them.

Yeah, I should probably buy 1 and modify it to be recessed enough to be legal here.

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How about a DP on a slide wire into deep water,run the slide wire thru a 330 submerged,that should keep the sucker from getting away.


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[quote=AJE][quote=pass-thru] None of my cubbies have a 12" recession, but I could modify 1.[/quote

..like the 12" roof addition I suggested?....2 lil bolts with wing nuts and in 20 seconds its on.


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There was a commercial dog proof 220 box advertised in 2016. It was called Sonny's dog proof 220 box. It was designed so a coon had to pull on trigger in a tube that fired the 220. Not sure if they are still available but someone on here might know. Google it and see if you can get an image of it.

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Originally Posted by silkyplainscoyot
There was a commercial dog proof 220 box advertised in 2016. It was called Sonny's dog proof 220 box. It was designed so a coon had to pull on trigger in a tube that fired the 220. Not sure if they are still available but someone on here might know. Google it and see if you can get an image of it.
This. But I can't find where to buy 1 & don't know if a 160 would work in it.
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The 12" roof extension may just get you busted here In WI. It "s what happened to a buddy of mine. If your going to go the extension thing I would close up all sides or at least the top and sides.

But this BG Dp thing just seems like a lot of screwing around to me.


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To modify 1 for a 220 in Wi would be too much screwing around. If it fit a 160 then it probably wouldn't be a big deal. But every one I've seen marketed is designed for a 220.

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I told you what to do. Put a long chain on your DP and stake down a 160 BG box with In reach. That coon will try and hide In that box and It's done and dead.


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