Re: Gun question?
[Re: harrison72]
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10/14/18 06:08 PM
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Maybe a slimline muzzle break on the .308? That will make it more than comfortable for her to shoot. Up here to get one matching finish, installed, runs around 180.00.
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Re: Gun question?
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10/14/18 08:51 PM
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The 44 Remington Magnum has 7.5 foot pounds of recoil in a 7 1/2 pound rifle. The 243 Winchester has 11.4 foot pounds of energy in an 8 pound rifle on Chuck Hawks site.
It is relative to the snap of the speed of the recoil, a gel pad to absorb that snap and if your 9.5 daughter has even fired a firearm with any recoil.
A point in this is, with the license, fuel, time and processing of the deer, you are going to have quite a bit invested in that deer if she shoots a yearling fawn as she should. Maybe you should invest in a 345 dollar kid's rifle in 223, with a box of high quality 25 dollar ammo, some ear plugs and practice, and with shot placement the 3 1/4 pounds of recoil will have her delighted and ready to go, instead of flinching. Tom Gresham on Gun Talk had a caller on today who noted a child shooting a 308 and was hurt by it, was flinching and the parent really messed that situation up.
As you have nothing on hand for a child, I would wait until 12 as numbers of states have that as the first age for a child.
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Re: Gun question?
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have you considered a 300 black out? my 8 year old cousin is driving tacks with one! And hes a pip squeak!!The one he shoots is considered a pistol that has the fold up adjustable stock
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Re: Gun question?
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10/14/18 10:36 PM
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Consider the 257 Roberts. My wife and both daughters started with one, very light recoil and factory loads are much better than years past.. I reload and our rifles have killed deer, bear and elk. Although light for elk pick your shots and it will do the job.
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Re: Gun question?
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I started out on a .223 my first 2 years until I was 10. After that, all I have used is a .308 with a couple exceptions target shooting.
IMO you should invest in a sled. For two reasons, 1. You can sight your guns in so much easier. 2. It will keep your daughter from flinching even from bigger guns. Then get your 22. rifle out (If you have one, if not the skip this step)and burn some ammo with her. once she is shooting like a pro then you can get out the .308. USE THE SLED and shoot a reduced load shot or 2. Don't over do it! She may even get scared of it just using the sled. If she can shoot decent with 1 or 2 shots then I would say she is OK.
If not I wouldn't keep trying, I'd get a lighter caliber. I shot one deer with a .243 and that might be a good caliber for her because I shot the .243 when I was 10. .223 would be the best though, but make sure you have good ammo. We had a problem with light .223 ammo once.
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Re: Gun question?
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10/15/18 09:51 AM
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fit is going to be an issue unless she is a very tall 9.5 year old
shoot them each one right after the other and see what you think has the least felt recoil. try reduced 308 or managed recoil 243 loads and you could try 44spl in the 44 mag.
shot placement becomes critical
if you can add a muzzle break it really does tame recoil , I just put a AR Stoner 7.62 muzzle break on my 308 and now I am watching the target still seeing the impact in the scope. it adds some noise she should already be wearing hearing protection during any practice , the electric hearing protection can also be worn in the field so she can hear , keep warm ears and keep her hearing protected. but muzzle brakes require threaded muzzles and that isn't as common as it should be.
I know you didn't ask about purchasing a new gun , but getting a rifle that fits her that can grow with her might be a good investment .
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Re: Gun question?
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The 243 has way less recoil than the 44 in a rifle. I have a 41mag rifle that absolutely thinks deer but it hits me pretty hard too. All guns have a lot of muzzle blast. This can be worst than recoil to some children. A muzzle break won’t help with this. I make my child take a lot of dry fire shots before putting an actual loaded bullet in. Helps to keep him from developing a flinch.
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Re: Gun question?
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My daughter is no were close to hunting Age, she needs 9 more years. I got a 243 2 years ago and have been using it. I like it way better then my 30/06 for the most part. But I have been playing around with reduced 30/06 loads with 125 bullets and the recoil is not bad maybe a little bit more then a 243 with full power 100 gr loads, but I can't really feel much difference, the 243 will get an adjustable stock for when my daughter and sun start to shoot it, fit is so important . I lurned to shoot my dads 20/06 and that gun beat the snot out of me, I hated shooting it and was not accurate at all with it. But one of the things I am doing now is getting her used to the noise of the rifle going off. Good luck and 22lr are cheap to practice with.
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