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2nd question for the snare and cr cable men #6348834
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What lock do you like? ( I do not care why LOL) and do you like Whammies and what kind? again just for survey.


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6348845
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Slim lock no whammie

Hiya Ron,
When you coming to the NC convention?
Newt didn’t come, we need someone to represent NJ for crying out loud!
And you got to be better lookin than him, LOL.

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6348875
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BMI, plastic tube wammy on mink snares only, all others no wammy, 7X7 cable

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6348885
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We have to use that reverse washer lock On our CRs. I use 3/16ths rubber gas line hose. IT doesn't freeze and It won't slip on the cable or stabilizing wire.


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6348921
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Death blow mini cam locks. I use the metallic whammys and don't like them. The rubber gas line hose has me thinking of using something different this year.

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6348930
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Remember This Is a CR survey. I don't think you can be using a non relaxing lock.


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6348932
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Steal wammys are great

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6348942
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The problem I see with steel Is It corrodes In certain areas and It will rust over time rubber doesn't.


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6348974
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I use slim and bullet locks. Mainly use rubber tubing for whammies. Do use some steel whammies, not the twist-on aberrations.

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6349035
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Bridger Sure-Hold camlock. Vinyl whammy. 1x19 Korean cable. Steel mini cable ends. Lethal and for coyotes & cats only.

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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6349039
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Mini cam locks and real metal wammies sized to fit my cable and support collar.

Want to know which ones I least too?

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: The Beav] #6349042
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
Remember This Is a CR survey. I don't think you can be using a non relaxing lock.


Read that title again beav.

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6349054
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Toothed death blow cams and I just put a second aluminum ferrule as a support. Fits my support wire perfectly. Works for me

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6349110
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slim loc's no wammie

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6349176
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6349177
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Deathblow cams and plastic tubing for whammy

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6349181
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NEWT'S MASTER LOCK

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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6349183
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Not everyone wants to waste time on the line :P

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6349186
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Thats one of the reasons, I dont use a wammy


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6349212
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Big fan of the lo-pro lock and I use real steel whammies also...

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Leary Sink] #6349354
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Originally Posted By: Leary Sink
Slim lock no whammie

Hiya Ron,
When you coming to the NC convention?
Newt didn’t come, we need someone to represent NJ for crying out loud!
And you got to be better lookin than him, LOL.


I am definitely better looking. I will be down in salvo a few days around turkey day. May hunt ducks but going fishing. we need to catch up when I am down there. told my son to grab me a nut so I can bring home for the trapping courses. nutria not Newt LOL

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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: The Beav] #6349356
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
Remember This Is a CR survey. I don't think you can be using a non relaxing lock.


No Beav I am asking snares and CR's


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6349359
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thank you to every one so far.


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6349416
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Cam locks

wire whammys.
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6349427
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I think I still got that nutrea in the freezer for ya.
Holler when you head down so we can get together.

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6349565
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6349620
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"I am definitely better looking." Aw Come On Jonesie, didn't you see that picture of Newt clean shavin'? Why the Parkway was jammed full of carloads of Wimmem headin south to find Newt for weeks after that picture was posted on here. I hear that some had zeroed in on his location but his beard grew back in and that saved him from bein' found, cause he stood still in a flower garden.

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6349638
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Eric I was wondering why he was always out of breath back then, he was runnin from the masses LOL

Leary looks like I will be down there Wed to Sunday that week.


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6349680
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Bad news- I have to have another operation.

Its been just over a year.The Dr have's to give me a do over.
Beard has to come off again.


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6349896
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Support collar is whammy, right? If so, why would u not want to use a whammy? What advantage to not use it ?

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Originally Posted By: coonman220
Support collar is whammy, right? If so, why would u not want to use a whammy? What advantage to not use it ?


I prefer to make an S bend in the support wire, it holds the loop securely. This makes it easier to turn the loop so it is going up of down hill. Like on top of a ground hog den or up a ditch embankment. But when the critter goes through I get it, usually.

Some guys use surgical tubing. I’m sure someone smarter than me will explain it better.


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You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.

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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6349929
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Micro Lock and started using Newt's Lock last year, with spring style whammy on all snares.

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: DelawareRob] #6349930
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Originally Posted By: DelawareRob
Originally Posted By: coonman220
Support collar is whammy, right? If so, why would u not want to use a whammy? What advantage to not use it ?


I prefer to make an S bend in the support wire, it holds the loop securely. This makes it easier to turn the loop so it is going up of down hill. Like on top of a ground hog den or up a ditch embankment. But when the critter goes through I get it, usually.

Some guys use surgical tubing. I’m sure someone smarter than me will explain it better.


With 14 ga wire and the inverted S bend. I support ALL me snares from Mink to Wild hog. fast ,No cludder,works evertime, Always have a ridget support.In any terrain that I have been in East west North and south.In water ,Dry land, On a tree or saplin,Soft or frozen ground.Open fields or woods.Out of truck, wheeler, canoe or boat. Even the raire walking line.36 snares/extension cables and support wire fit in my nail apron along with plyers and cable cutters.

Can you carry all this and have your hands free ?


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Newt] #6349984
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Yup I can Newt, cause I do the same thing as you. I learned the inverted S from Ron. Loop stays right where I put it. I need to get over to your school!
But I’m just a novice compared to what you’ve forgotten about snaring!


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: coonman220] #6349988
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Originally Posted By: coonman220
Support collar is whammy, right? If so, why would u not want to use a whammy? What advantage to not use it ?


No good reason not to if you use the same support wire for all your snares, just put the right sized support collar on to fit the cable size + support wire. They hold tighter than any bent wire if they are sized correctly.

Just plug them on your support wire (#9 is by far the best IMO) and turn the wammy to hold your snare at any angle you want, even on a 90* beaver slide.




Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6349998
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I can do that with my rubber gas line whammies.


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Originally Posted By: The Beav
I can do that with my rubber gas line whammies.
Yep. If they are the right size.

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6350307
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But ADC, you make only 1 set over and over,out of your truck.Your method works for Iowa roadside snaring.
Sure would not work on my snare lines 80% of the time.


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6350324
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locks are determined by the states regulations where I am trapping. Out west I use micro locks and twist on wire wammiies with kill springs. In PA washer locks with twist on wammies. I get too much movement at times with plastic tubing.

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Well If your getting to much movement with plastic whammies then your whammies don't fit your system.

The ISD of my gas line hose Is 3/16ths. By time It's slid on the 1x19 cable and then when my support wire Is Inserted It's a perfect match. The problem with plastic It's way to hard and to slippery. It just doesn't bind up well and with rubber you have some give as you insert the support wire. You don't have that with plastic.

And I can't see how anyone could use those little curly cue wire whammies They are just plain aggravating In my opinion.


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Originally Posted By: Newt
But ADC, you make only 1 set over and over,out of your truck.Your method works for Iowa roadside snaring.
Sure would not work on my snare lines 80% of the time.


Not exactly. I snare coons that way and a few fox but my coyotes and beaver are two different methods not on the roadside. One thing they do all have in common is the same size support wire and same sized cable. I've tried several other cable sizes and different support wires and I have no desire to use them again.

Originally Posted By: The Beav
And I can't see how anyone could use those little curly cue wire whammies They are just plain aggravating In my opinion.


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6351224
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ADC, How do you set beaver snares. I'v seen your road side set up.


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Newt] #6351292
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Originally Posted By: Newt
Bad news- I have to have another operation.

Its been just over a year.The Dr have's to give me a do over.
Beard has to come off again.


When? We don't want to scare folks from the school!!!!!!

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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6351298
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If I was forced to use those curly-q type whammies I’d quit snaring....

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Newt] #6351318
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Originally Posted By: Newt
ADC, How do you set beaver snares. I'v seen your road side set up.


Basically just a shorter killpole. I snare them on land usually 2' from the waters edge in a fake slide.

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: 9wire] #6351320
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Originally Posted By: 9wire
If I was forced to use those curly-q type whammies I’d quit snaring....
grin

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6351379
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ADC, on out recent trip thru Iowa I marveled that you have large fields and No Rocks. Here in north Jersey there are few places I could drive in even a 12 inch rebar stake. I have to either use a drag (notched rock or brick) or staple fast to a tree. Once in a while I can stake a snare but use a 8 inch wooden oak stake. The wood will jam between the rocks so that even a small bear cannot pull it. I use oak hardwood flooring scraps as they rot fast and within a year disappear, so they are in essence a disposable stake, cause you ain't pullin them out.

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6351448
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I use a second 3/32 ferrule. Fits my support wire great and of course holds the cable great. I see no downside, but I am sure someone will find a problem with it

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Hutchy] #6351454
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Originally Posted By: Hutchy
I use a second 3/32 ferrule. Fits my support wire great and of course holds the cable great.
Works great for me too.


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: bctomcat] #6351479
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Originally Posted By: bctomcat
Originally Posted By: Hutchy
I use a second 3/32 ferrule. Fits my support wire great and of course holds the cable great.
Works great for me too.


What support wire and cable are you using? It certainly doesn't fit tight on 3/32 cable, unless your crimping them??? I want my supports solid so I can use my snares almost like pan tension on a trap. Meaning I set the lock lower on the side so it has to pass up over the top a small amount before it fires shut, during that time I don't want the cable, the support wire to give AT ALL. Nice and solid until it fires shut. = all neck snared critters (even beaver and coon) and very very few knocked down or blown down snares from small animals, birds, and wind.

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: eric space] #6351481
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Originally Posted By: eric space
ADC, on out recent trip thru Iowa I marveled that you have large fields and No Rocks. Here in north Jersey there are few places I could drive in even a 12 inch rebar stake. I have to either use a drag (notched rock or brick) or staple fast to a tree. Once in a while I can stake a snare but use a 8 inch wooden oak stake. The wood will jam between the rocks so that even a small bear cannot pull it. I use oak hardwood flooring scraps as they rot fast and within a year disappear, so they are in essence a disposable stake, cause you ain't pullin them out.


What can I say? Just another reason to get out of that state you live in. laugh

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6351495
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I have use both 5/64 and 3/32 cable with 11ga support wire without. I've never had a problem without crimping them. Just set back on the support wire tipped up a bit.


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: ~ADC~] #6351503
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Originally Posted By: ~ADC~
[quote=bctomcat][quote=Hutchy]I use a second 3/32 ferrule. Fits my support wire great and of course holds the cable great. Works great for me too

What support wire and cable are you using? It certainly doesn't fit tight on 3/32 cable, unless your crimping them??? I want my supports solid so I can use my snares almost like pan tension on a trap. Meaning I set the lock lower on the side so it has to pass up over the top a small amount before it fires shut, during that time I don't want the cable, the support wire to give AT ALL. Nice and solid until it fires shut. = all neck snared critters (even beaver and coon) and very very few knocked down or blown down snares from small animals, birds, and wind.


I dunno. I can set my snares in any direction I want. Easy firing so that they go off with just a touch, or set the loop a bit higher so it's harder firing. I don't know what size the wire is. I got it in bulk from a place that sells rebar. They used it as tie wire. Fits perfect in a ferrule with no slack. I use 3/32 7x7. The cable never moves in the ferrule, but you can adjust loop size easily. If my wire support is more than about 2 1/2 feet from the (usually a tree) the wire does sag some. I just double it then. To attach the support wire to a tree I cut it off on an angle with cutters so it is sharp, then bend about 3/4 of it to 90 degrees and hammer it into the tree like a nail with the side of the cutters. Really fast. If it is below about -5, only on hardwoods I keep a 12v drill with me and drill a pilot for the support wire because the sap is frozen and the wire doesn't nail into the tree easily. Using the drill slows you down a bit, but not much.

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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Aix sponsa] #6351515
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Originally Posted By: Aix sponsa
Your mileage must vary....
?????????


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6351521
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He means that for whatever reason you may see different results than he did with that method.

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6351535
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Thanks for the info. It's just as I suspected, the cable can slide in the ferrule, so for me I would not like it. A lot of my locations are are on steeper terrain where I need the wammy to hold the loop at a 30-45 degree angle from level in order to be 90 degrees to the trail. ... oh, and we don't have trees. lol Tough to wire off to a blade of grass.

Different strokes for different folks. No one is wrong here, well except those who like the cone shaped, "one-size-fits-none", things to support their snares. grin

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6351634
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Originally Posted By: Newt
Bad news- I have to have another operation.

Its been just over a year.The Dr have's to give me a do over.
Beard has to come off again.


When? We don't want to scare folks from the school!!!!!!



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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6351669
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You scary with the beard off Newt?


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6351970
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I cant do that stent job pretty cheap for ya.
I took a one week correspondence course on stents
and got a perfect attendance award.

Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6353340
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Leary I think we can a piece of that clear tubbing they use for fish tank air hose in and he would be fixed for a long time.


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6353505
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Originally Posted By: Leary Sink
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I cant do that stent job pretty cheap for ya.
I took a one week correspondence course on stents
and got a perfect attendance award.


through "affirmitve action "?

Originally Posted By: Jonesie
Leary I think we can a piece of that clear tubbing they use for fish tank air hose in and he would be fixed for a long time.


I got the tubing that I use on mink snares


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: Jonesie] #6353619
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Slim lock and newts lock is now my favorite


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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men [Re: The Beav] #6353623
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
Well If your getting to much movement with plastic whammies then your whammies don't fit your system.

The ISD of my gas line hose Is 3/16ths. By time It's slid on the 1x19 cable and then when my support wire Is Inserted It's a perfect match. The problem with plastic It's way to hard and to slippery. It just doesn't bind up well and with rubber you have some give as you insert the support wire. You don't have that with plastic.

And I can't see how anyone could use those little curly cue wire whammies They are just plain aggravating In my opinion.
that's bc you dont know how to use them. They work well with the right size wire and you turn them the right
Way when putting the support wire in.


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