Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
[Re: Jonesie]
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We have to use that reverse washer lock On our CRs. I use 3/16ths rubber gas line hose. IT doesn't freeze and It won't slip on the cable or stabilizing wire.
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
[Re: Jonesie]
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10/16/18 10:47 AM
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Remember This Is a CR survey. I don't think you can be using a non relaxing lock.
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
[Re: Jonesie]
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10/16/18 10:58 AM
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The problem I see with steel Is It corrodes In certain areas and It will rust over time rubber doesn't.
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
[Re: Jonesie]
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10/16/18 01:12 PM
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Bridger Sure-Hold camlock. Vinyl whammy. 1x19 Korean cable. Steel mini cable ends. Lethal and for coyotes & cats only.
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
[Re: The Beav]
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10/16/18 01:20 PM
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Remember This Is a CR survey. I don't think you can be using a non relaxing lock. Read that title again beav.
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
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Slim lock no whammie
Hiya Ron, When you coming to the NC convention? Newt didn’t come, we need someone to represent NJ for crying out loud! And you got to be better lookin than him, LOL. I am definitely better looking. I will be down in salvo a few days around turkey day. May hunt ducks but going fishing. we need to catch up when I am down there. told my son to grab me a nut so I can bring home for the trapping courses. nutria not Newt LOL
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
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Remember This Is a CR survey. I don't think you can be using a non relaxing lock. No Beav I am asking snares and CR's
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
[Re: Jonesie]
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10/17/18 09:57 AM
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Bad news- I have to have another operation.
Its been just over a year.The Dr have's to give me a do over. Beard has to come off again.
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
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Support collar is whammy, right? If so, why would u not want to use a whammy? What advantage to not use it ? I prefer to make an S bend in the support wire, it holds the loop securely. This makes it easier to turn the loop so it is going up of down hill. Like on top of a ground hog den or up a ditch embankment. But when the critter goes through I get it, usually. Some guys use surgical tubing. I’m sure someone smarter than me will explain it better.
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
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10/17/18 05:25 PM
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Support collar is whammy, right? If so, why would u not want to use a whammy? What advantage to not use it ? I prefer to make an S bend in the support wire, it holds the loop securely. This makes it easier to turn the loop so it is going up of down hill. Like on top of a ground hog den or up a ditch embankment. But when the critter goes through I get it, usually. Some guys use surgical tubing. I’m sure someone smarter than me will explain it better. With 14 ga wire and the inverted S bend. I support ALL me snares from Mink to Wild hog. fast ,No cludder,works evertime, Always have a ridget support.In any terrain that I have been in East west North and south.In water ,Dry land, On a tree or saplin,Soft or frozen ground.Open fields or woods.Out of truck, wheeler, canoe or boat. Even the raire walking line.36 snares/extension cables and support wire fit in my nail apron along with plyers and cable cutters. Can you carry all this and have your hands free ?
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
[Re: Newt]
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Yup I can Newt, cause I do the same thing as you. I learned the inverted S from Ron. Loop stays right where I put it. I need to get over to your school! But I’m just a novice compared to what you’ve forgotten about snaring!
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
[Re: Jonesie]
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I can do that with my rubber gas line whammies.
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
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I can do that with my rubber gas line whammies. Yep. If they are the right size.
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
[Re: Jonesie]
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But ADC, you make only 1 set over and over,out of your truck.Your method works for Iowa roadside snaring. Sure would not work on my snare lines 80% of the time.
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
[Re: Jonesie]
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Well If your getting to much movement with plastic whammies then your whammies don't fit your system.
The ISD of my gas line hose Is 3/16ths. By time It's slid on the 1x19 cable and then when my support wire Is Inserted It's a perfect match. The problem with plastic It's way to hard and to slippery. It just doesn't bind up well and with rubber you have some give as you insert the support wire. You don't have that with plastic.
And I can't see how anyone could use those little curly cue wire whammies They are just plain aggravating In my opinion.
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
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But ADC, you make only 1 set over and over,out of your truck.Your method works for Iowa roadside snaring. Sure would not work on my snare lines 80% of the time. Not exactly. I snare coons that way and a few fox but my coyotes and beaver are two different methods not on the roadside. One thing they do all have in common is the same size support wire and same sized cable. I've tried several other cable sizes and different support wires and I have no desire to use them again. And I can't see how anyone could use those little curly cue wire whammies They are just plain aggravating In my opinion. X2
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
[Re: Newt]
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Bad news- I have to have another operation.
Its been just over a year.The Dr have's to give me a do over. Beard has to come off again. When? We don't want to scare folks from the school!!!!!!
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
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ADC, How do you set beaver snares. I'v seen your road side set up. Basically just a shorter killpole. I snare them on land usually 2' from the waters edge in a fake slide.
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
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10/19/18 11:55 AM
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I use a second 3/32 ferrule. Fits my support wire great and of course holds the cable great. Works great for me too.
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
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10/19/18 12:38 PM
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I use a second 3/32 ferrule. Fits my support wire great and of course holds the cable great. Works great for me too. What support wire and cable are you using? It certainly doesn't fit tight on 3/32 cable, unless your crimping them??? I want my supports solid so I can use my snares almost like pan tension on a trap. Meaning I set the lock lower on the side so it has to pass up over the top a small amount before it fires shut, during that time I don't want the cable, the support wire to give AT ALL. Nice and solid until it fires shut. = all neck snared critters (even beaver and coon) and very very few knocked down or blown down snares from small animals, birds, and wind.
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
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[quote=bctomcat][quote=Hutchy]I use a second 3/32 ferrule. Fits my support wire great and of course holds the cable great. Works great for me too
What support wire and cable are you using? It certainly doesn't fit tight on 3/32 cable, unless your crimping them??? I want my supports solid so I can use my snares almost like pan tension on a trap. Meaning I set the lock lower on the side so it has to pass up over the top a small amount before it fires shut, during that time I don't want the cable, the support wire to give AT ALL. Nice and solid until it fires shut. = all neck snared critters (even beaver and coon) and very very few knocked down or blown down snares from small animals, birds, and wind. I dunno. I can set my snares in any direction I want. Easy firing so that they go off with just a touch, or set the loop a bit higher so it's harder firing. I don't know what size the wire is. I got it in bulk from a place that sells rebar. They used it as tie wire. Fits perfect in a ferrule with no slack. I use 3/32 7x7. The cable never moves in the ferrule, but you can adjust loop size easily. If my wire support is more than about 2 1/2 feet from the (usually a tree) the wire does sag some. I just double it then. To attach the support wire to a tree I cut it off on an angle with cutters so it is sharp, then bend about 3/4 of it to 90 degrees and hammer it into the tree like a nail with the side of the cutters. Really fast. If it is below about -5, only on hardwoods I keep a 12v drill with me and drill a pilot for the support wire because the sap is frozen and the wire doesn't nail into the tree easily. Using the drill slows you down a bit, but not much.
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
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Bad news- I have to have another operation.
Its been just over a year.The Dr have's to give me a do over. Beard has to come off again. When? We don't want to scare folks from the school!!!!!! It anit nut'n just a stent
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
[Re: Jonesie]
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Newt I cant do that stent job pretty cheap for ya. I took a one week correspondence course on stents and got a perfect attendance award. through "affirmitve action "? Leary I think we can a piece of that clear tubbing they use for fish tank air hose in and he would be fixed for a long time. I got the tubing that I use on mink snares
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
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Slim lock and newts lock is now my favorite
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Re: 2nd question for the snare and cr cable men
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Well If your getting to much movement with plastic whammies then your whammies don't fit your system.
The ISD of my gas line hose Is 3/16ths. By time It's slid on the 1x19 cable and then when my support wire Is Inserted It's a perfect match. The problem with plastic It's way to hard and to slippery. It just doesn't bind up well and with rubber you have some give as you insert the support wire. You don't have that with plastic.
And I can't see how anyone could use those little curly cue wire whammies They are just plain aggravating In my opinion. that's bc you dont know how to use them. They work well with the right size wire and you turn them the right Way when putting the support wire in.
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