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Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: FlyinFinn] #6351233
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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
The 'semi' in semi automatic is what distinguishes one from the other. Fully automatic is redundant.


come on devil dog....you know the full auto distinguishes from the 3-round burst

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6351243
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I've described before the raid I witnessed at my neighbors. I am amazed nobody got shot. I wasn't the only one of my neighbors who grabbed a gun before hearing "sheriffs dept search warrant". They didn't blow a door off but they did explode a big firecracker. Got ignorant when I told them to get off my property and tried to get me to go inside. A bunch of sorry cowardly bums I no longer respect.


Ban private vehicles now. They are killing too much wildlife and too many children.
Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6351267
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Originally Posted By: danny clifton
I've described before the raid I witnessed at my neighbors. I am amazed nobody got shot. I wasn't the only one of my neighbors who grabbed a gun before hearing "sheriffs dept search warrant". They didn't blow a door off but they did explode a big firecracker. Got ignorant when I told them to get off my property and tried to get me to go inside. A bunch of sorry cowardly bums I no longer respect.


So you left the gun inside while you were out there getting mouthy???

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6351453
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So pass thru you want to abolish tresspass laws?


Ban private vehicles now. They are killing too much wildlife and too many children.
Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6351533
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It is what it is, and has been our whole life Danny. Why bother asking a question you know the answer to and know the guy, as the regulations are, is in the wrong?

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6351541
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As a Devil Dog I was taught that three round burst feature on an M16 was put there only to satisfy the U.S. Army who can't hit any side of a barn while standing inside of it. Fire superiority is brought with AUTOMATIC rifles and machine guns while rifleman use well aimed shots.

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6351543
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Hippie your right. He's a grown man and almost certainly knew he was breaking the law. IMO it is a good example of one reason why the law needs changed. He obviously was no threat just liked his old war weapon. I keep hoping the supremes will do the right thing and negate all the gun control laws in the U.S.

Free people have every right to arm themselves with whatever arms their government has. The government of free people by definition only governs with the consent of the governed. To maintain that ideal, the governed must have the means at hand to overthrow the government if consent is no longer given.


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Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: hippie] #6351544
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He may have posted it to light a fire in your mind as to why you keep supporting a party of limp wristed appeasement in dealing with the 2nd amendment.

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6351551
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Or why you support a party that hasn't ever passed a pro-gun bill. wink

And wont, talk about limp!

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Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6351601
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Your party has passed 100 percent more gun bills than mine. That is irrelevant really. It boils down to a culture of loving big government. If you don't like big government don't vote for it anymore.

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6351845
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Originally Posted By: danny clifton
So pass thru you want to abolish tresspass laws?


I'm just saying it's kind of sheepish to hide your gun if you feel like you're in the right, especially on your own property. You are always throwing the thunder around on here about everything, was hoping you would stick to your guns when it really came down to it.

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6351875
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why do you need a gun in hand to tell a bunch of thugs with badges to get off your property?

They had a search warrant. The guy they were searching had some marijuana seeds in his trash. They found it and got a warrant. He is a guy that works every day, has a wife and at that time two young kids in grade school still at home. He is an adult and knew he was breaking the law. He also was no threat to anybody. Instead of sending a couple cops over to search/arrest they sent at least a dozen. Armed with what looked like to me like m16's. I was not alone in being outraged at how everyone around here had their lives put in danger by these cowards. To scared to do their job without an assault team. One man, one woman, two kids, marijuana seeds. What an imminent threat of harm to the officers. Me and my neighbors had a chat with the sheriff about it. Haven't seen that kind of nonsense since. They had a new team with new toys and wanted to play with them.


Ban private vehicles now. They are killing too much wildlife and too many children.
Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6351883
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Not everyone has an experience where government is exposed for what it is, Mr. Clifton. Force
Once that is revealed it is a turning point for most people.

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6351884
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Well, as it stands now, the guy did fracture a law or two. I don't think full auto (or 3 round burst) should be illegal either but as of now it is and has been for decades now. The law needs to change I agree but it's not like he owned it beforehand. The big stickler here (for me) is the filed off serial numbers. No excuse for that one. I would like to be on the guys side but it's just to blatant. Not much of an excuse that he can give. The sentence seems a bit harsh for the guy I will say. 7 Years for a 70yo man that, I assume, has been a model citizen (a record probably would have been reported) seems a bit much. If it was some thug on the street I would say it wasn't enough. I'm not happy about any of this. Their are no winners here.

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Liberals are not for gun control, they are for no guns, then control!
Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6351916
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I'm guessing the same situation for a hoodie and/or a veteran determine whether or not a crime has been committed.


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Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: T-Rex] #6351919
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Originally Posted By: T-Rex
I'm guessing the same situation for a hoodie and/or a veteran determine whether or not a crime has been committed.
Not what I'm saying. You have to take into account the criminal record. Some thug on the street who has a record of crime should be sentenced harsher since that person obviously has no regard for the law. A model citizen (again an assumption) should not get as harsh a sentence.


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Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6351927
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Who aspires to be a 'model citizen'? Jeezus you may as well have a wonder bread mayo sandwich for 40 years and die. America doesn't need model citizens. We need people with M14s. So what if it rubbed against the gun safe andw wore the numbers off. Why are guns serialized and why does the fact this one didn't have one bother?

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Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6351933
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Serial numbers are on things to identify them.You know so that property can be recovered when stolen.People erase serial numbers to cover up crimes,same as lying etc,it is deceitful action to try to get away with something.
7 years sounds excessive for that guy if he has a clean record.

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Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6351934
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I suspect there is a whole lot more contributing to this prison term than an automatic weapon.

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6351939
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Numbers engraved are for the STRICT agrement between the seller and the buyer. The buyer may then, if so pleased, use them in an insurance scam. No way should govt give a ripe rip about them. Scratched off or so deep they show up on a DNA test.

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