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Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6351992
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Of course law enforcement can use evidence like removed serial numbers as indicative of covering up a crime in their investigation.What planet are you from.


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Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6351997
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They just numbers BOCO. Save some wind for skirt blowing. Does each box of ye Lucky Charms cereal come with special numbers?

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6351998
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Who stole me Lucky Charms?.

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: FlyinFinn] #6352082
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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
They just numbers BOCO. Save some wind for skirt blowing. Does each box of ye Lucky Charms cereal come with special numbers?


Then I'd like your SS number, bank account numbers, etc. Just numbers. whistle

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6352086
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it shouldn't be a crime to build a firearm for resale without a serial number. many many many firearms out there produced before that was a law. its still legal to build one for your own use without a serial number.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6352104
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What actual crime did this man commit? Who was victimized by his actions?

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

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Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6352108
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According to this write-up, he also plead guilty to dope possession.
How much dope did he have? Might explain the sentence he got.

http://www.newser.com/story/266092/american-hero-jailed-for-decades-old-gun-buy.html

It was obvious there was more to the story and the gun headline was to tug at some hearts.

Here's another one...His family led the ATF to him.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/guns/201...-rifle-purchase

"mentally unstable addict"

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Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6352220
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Ah so he is part of the compromised class. The class that NRA and Republicans through under the bus in one of their many appeasements. "Unstable addict". LOL.

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6352229
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The 2nd article you posted hippie said he had 10 grams of marijuana and 2 grams cocaine,
3/8 ths of an ounce of weed,the article said he was sentenced for
possessing a firearm while using/possessing a controlled substance.
Are you suggesting anyone caught with a misdemeanor amount of
marijuana should loose their 2nd Amendment rights?
Or only if someone they know says they might have a problem?

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6352235
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Unlike the 4th which uses the word unreasonable which can be interpreted differently. The 2nd says 'shall not infringe' which is a "concrete" unchangeable statement. Although he can be charged with a drug crime I don't believe it constitutional to charge him with a gun crime.

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6352241
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Guys like him are the reason we have regulations on such firearms. Going into hospitals and threatening to shoot people in the knees and elbows while doped up. crazy

Go ahead and defend idiots, you'll get more regulations.

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: hippie] #6352242
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Originally Posted By: hippie
Guys like him are the reason we have regulations on such firearms. Going into hospitals and threatening to shoot people in the knees and elbows while doped up. crazy

Go ahead and defend idiots, you'll get more regulations.


I'd say go on defending regulations, you'll get more regulations.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6352243
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Could be, but this guy isn't where i want to plant my flag.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: Art S] #6352244
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Originally Posted By: Art S
The 2nd article you posted hippie said he had 10 grams of marijuana and 2 grams cocaine,
3/8 ths of an ounce of weed,the article said he was sentenced for
possessing a firearm while using/possessing a controlled substance.
Are you suggesting anyone caught with a misdemeanor amount of
marijuana should loose their 2nd Amendment rights?
Or only if someone they know says they might have a problem?


Read his background....2014 brandishing a firearm while criminally tresspassing is just one. (at hospitals)
Not his first run-in whith weapons.

"repeated criminal behavior"

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Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6352247
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I agree that this guy isn't a rallying cause but I don't think that was the OPs point in the beginning.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/guns/201...-rifle-purchase
That article is a primary example of why we need to draw a line in the sand in fact move it back.



"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6352249
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It says they didn't charge him with the unregistered gun or serial number violation. Doesn't say what he was charged with, but my guess is repeated terroristic threats (while doped up and in possession of a gun). Fake news!


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Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6352250
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Show me a reasonable person wronged, i'll stand with. Not this guy, even his daughter saw he was nuts.

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6352253
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Fairweather friend to the 2nd amendment.

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6352254
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Fella told me.........If ya can't afford the 200 dollar stamp, ya can't afford ten seconds on the trigger, lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQnU1t7UzgM

Re: why is this even a crime?????????????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6352255
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Your right Finn.
Drug addicts running around with guns threatening people, i don'y support. They cause regular people to force our gov't to make laws that us normal people don't want.

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