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Wife died two weeks before raid? Sounds like someone who visited wanted some revenge. Maybe he got on the bad side of his inlaws.
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Would it be illegal for me to own a fully automatic rifle with the serial number filed off?
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With all do respect, the man should've known better when the serial number was scratched off. GIANT red flag
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[Re: danny clifton]
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10/18/18 08:38 AM
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WHY is it illegal. Whats different about finishing an 80% reciever for a semi ( no serial #) or owning an old military rifle picked up in a war zone?
Why is full auto illegal? Are people with full auto more likely to commit murder? Does the rifle change the way the owners mind works????
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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well Trump could pardon him say I understand that the gun laws have gotten so ridiculous that a good guy , war veteran though of it as just another rifle , it was purchased pre registration so let him go.
your pardoned thank you for your service.
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So your saying its a crime to steal because thats the law? No reasoning behind it. Its just the law? As to the NRA Id rather support nancy pelosi. She is honest about supporting gun control
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if he bought it legally back then should be ok now. seven years lock up dosnt figure.
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We have a libertarian state senator here in Nebraska, laura ebke. From what I understand, shes the highest elected libertarian in America. As far as automatic weapons, a gun is just a piece of metal, government has no more business regulating that piece of metal than any other piece of metal I own. Elected as a Republican and then changed parties, Same as Gary Johnson. But that's ok with me. How many gun laws has she eliminated since she's been in?
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Re: why is this even a crime??????????????????
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“Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agents looking for the rifle raided Pick’s Plano, Texas, home two weeks after his wife died of cancer and found the weapon.“
So, who knew about the gun and had a grudge against the old man? His in-laws maybe? I think the informant should be tracked down.
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We have a libertarian state senator here in Nebraska, laura ebke. From what I understand, shes the highest elected libertarian in America. As far as automatic weapons, a gun is just a piece of metal, government has no more business regulating that piece of metal than any other piece of metal I own. Elected as a Republican and then changed parties, Same as Gary Johnson. But that's ok with me. How many gun laws has she eliminated since she's been in? As far as I know, not a single one. From what I understand she's always leaned libertarian but made the switch in opposition to our governor. She's pro-DACA, that's all I need to know about her. Though on this particular issue, her website says that owning any weapon, in and of itself should not be a crime.
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The law was passed because in the 20's too many gangsters used them in crimes, hence the '27 NFA. BUT, full auto firearms can be possessed legally with the proper registration and NFA Stamp, like Suppressors. NO firearm can be possessed with altered or destroyed serial numbers. Did he actually buy it, or did he steal it from the Government during his military service?
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"fully automatic"....gets me every time! Whys that?
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Blame Al Capone and the likes for why it's now illegal. Or, keep whining about something you and i had no control over.
Vote enough pro-gunners in and we might get somewhere, but with the 50-50 splits we've been having, nothing is gonna change.
Finn.......... The democrat lite paerty has done more than your group will ever do to help us. Get one elected would be a good first step. Easy to say what they "might" do when they can't even get elected to dog-catcher.
No, they haven't. Their platform, instead of calling for the abolition of the NFA and subsequent unconstitutional federal gun laws, mumbles on about reciprocity for permission slips to carry concealed and 'lawful' gun owners. Blah blah blah. Buncha do-nothing grifters.
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"fully automatic"....gets me every time! Whys that? because automatic is automatic. They put "fully" in front to make it sound scary.
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"Who?" put fully in front of it? Reason I was wondering is that it really only had me guessing what you meant by that statement. Then as I was looking through the Wyoming regulations it states in there that no one shall take wildlife with any fully auto weapon. Seems they dont think it is a scary term.
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Not sure it is redundant but I was wondering "who" put it in there to imply scary? Guess I dont see it as scary. I think it was put there years ago just to distinguish between semi auto and full auto.
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I think it was put there years ago just to distinguish between semi auto and full auto. I think so too.
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The law was passed because in the 20's too many gangsters used them in crimes, hence the '27 NFA. BUT, full auto firearms can be possessed legally with the proper registration and NFA Stamp, like Suppressors. NO firearm can be possessed with altered or destroyed serial numbers. Did he actually buy it, or did he steal it from the Government during his military service? NFA came about in '34. And that was just to keep revenue agents employed after Prohibition was repealed. The ATF is a tax agency. Why they have goons in tactical gear kicking down doors over tax issues is a joke. Mike
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[Re: danny clifton]
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330 I do both.
I have a real hard time understanding how somebody can rabidly support the ownership of semi look a like rifles and in the same breath claim auto firearms should be taxed regulated and heavily controlled. Including banning production for civilian sales.
The NRA got the NFA passed in 34 by playing on peoples fear of bank robbers. Bonnie and Clyde were fond of BAR 30-06 for example and others liked the smaller .45 "tommy gun".
Everyone ought to read up on how the government got it past the supremes.
Every argument you folks make in support of black semi rifles equally applies to auto's.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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If you pull the trigger one time on a "semi-automatic", how many times does it shoot? Then it should be called a single shot. A pump can be fired nearly as fast as a semi-automatic.
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The 'semi' in semi automatic is what distinguishes one from the other. Fully automatic is redundant. come on devil dog....you know the full auto distinguishes from the 3-round burst
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I've described before the raid I witnessed at my neighbors. I am amazed nobody got shot. I wasn't the only one of my neighbors who grabbed a gun before hearing "sheriffs dept search warrant". They didn't blow a door off but they did explode a big firecracker. Got ignorant when I told them to get off my property and tried to get me to go inside. A bunch of sorry cowardly bums I no longer respect.
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I've described before the raid I witnessed at my neighbors. I am amazed nobody got shot. I wasn't the only one of my neighbors who grabbed a gun before hearing "sheriffs dept search warrant". They didn't blow a door off but they did explode a big firecracker. Got ignorant when I told them to get off my property and tried to get me to go inside. A bunch of sorry cowardly bums I no longer respect. So you left the gun inside while you were out there getting mouthy???
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So pass thru you want to abolish tresspass laws?
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Hippie your right. He's a grown man and almost certainly knew he was breaking the law. IMO it is a good example of one reason why the law needs changed. He obviously was no threat just liked his old war weapon. I keep hoping the supremes will do the right thing and negate all the gun control laws in the U.S.
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Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Or why you support a party that hasn't ever passed a pro-gun bill. And wont, talk about limp!
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So pass thru you want to abolish tresspass laws? I'm just saying it's kind of sheepish to hide your gun if you feel like you're in the right, especially on your own property. You are always throwing the thunder around on here about everything, was hoping you would stick to your guns when it really came down to it.
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why do you need a gun in hand to tell a bunch of thugs with badges to get off your property?
They had a search warrant. The guy they were searching had some marijuana seeds in his trash. They found it and got a warrant. He is a guy that works every day, has a wife and at that time two young kids in grade school still at home. He is an adult and knew he was breaking the law. He also was no threat to anybody. Instead of sending a couple cops over to search/arrest they sent at least a dozen. Armed with what looked like to me like m16's. I was not alone in being outraged at how everyone around here had their lives put in danger by these cowards. To scared to do their job without an assault team. One man, one woman, two kids, marijuana seeds. What an imminent threat of harm to the officers. Me and my neighbors had a chat with the sheriff about it. Haven't seen that kind of nonsense since. They had a new team with new toys and wanted to play with them.
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Well, as it stands now, the guy did fracture a law or two. I don't think full auto (or 3 round burst) should be illegal either but as of now it is and has been for decades now. The law needs to change I agree but it's not like he owned it beforehand. The big stickler here (for me) is the filed off serial numbers. No excuse for that one. I would like to be on the guys side but it's just to blatant. Not much of an excuse that he can give. The sentence seems a bit harsh for the guy I will say. 7 Years for a 70yo man that, I assume, has been a model citizen (a record probably would have been reported) seems a bit much. If it was some thug on the street I would say it wasn't enough. I'm not happy about any of this. Their are no winners here.
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I'm guessing the same situation for a hoodie and/or a veteran determine whether or not a crime has been committed.
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I'm guessing the same situation for a hoodie and/or a veteran determine whether or not a crime has been committed. Not what I'm saying. You have to take into account the criminal record. Some thug on the street who has a record of crime should be sentenced harsher since that person obviously has no regard for the law. A model citizen (again an assumption) should not get as harsh a sentence.
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Who aspires to be a 'model citizen'? Jeezus you may as well have a wonder bread mayo sandwich for 40 years and die. America doesn't need model citizens. We need people with M14s. So what if it rubbed against the gun safe andw wore the numbers off. Why are guns serialized and why does the fact this one didn't have one bother?
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Serial numbers are on things to identify them.You know so that property can be recovered when stolen.People erase serial numbers to cover up crimes,same as lying etc,it is deceitful action to try to get away with something. 7 years sounds excessive for that guy if he has a clean record.
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Numbers engraved are for the STRICT agrement between the seller and the buyer. The buyer may then, if so pleased, use them in an insurance scam. No way should govt give a ripe rip about them. Scratched off or so deep they show up on a DNA test.
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I suspect there is a whole lot more contributing to this prison term than an automatic weapon. You should put an advertisement in the paper for a willing jury member. Prosecutors might see it.
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Of course law enforcement can use evidence like removed serial numbers as indicative of covering up a crime in their investigation.What planet are you from.
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it shouldn't be a crime to build a firearm for resale without a serial number. many many many firearms out there produced before that was a law. its still legal to build one for your own use without a serial number.
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What actual crime did this man commit? Who was victimized by his actions?
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J Staton
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Unlike the 4th which uses the word unreasonable which can be interpreted differently. The 2nd says 'shall not infringe' which is a "concrete" unchangeable statement. Although he can be charged with a drug crime I don't believe it constitutional to charge him with a gun crime.
James 1: 19-20
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Re: why is this even a crime??????????????????
[Re: hippie]
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10/20/18 11:34 AM
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Steven 49er
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Guys like him are the reason we have regulations on such firearms. Going into hospitals and threatening to shoot people in the knees and elbows while doped up. Go ahead and defend idiots, you'll get more regulations. I'd say go on defending regulations, you'll get more regulations.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: why is this even a crime??????????????????
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10/20/18 11:39 AM
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hippie
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The 2nd article you posted hippie said he had 10 grams of marijuana and 2 grams cocaine, 3/8 ths of an ounce of weed,the article said he was sentenced for possessing a firearm while using/possessing a controlled substance. Are you suggesting anyone caught with a misdemeanor amount of marijuana should loose their 2nd Amendment rights? Or only if someone they know says they might have a problem? Read his background....2014 brandishing a firearm while criminally tresspassing is just one. (at hospitals) Not his first run-in whith weapons. "repeated criminal behavior"
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Re: why is this even a crime??????????????????
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10/20/18 11:44 AM
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hippie
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It says they didn't charge him with the unregistered gun or serial number violation. Doesn't say what he was charged with, but my guess is repeated terroristic threats (while doped up and in possession of a gun). Fake news!
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Re: why is this even a crime??????????????????
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10/23/18 12:24 AM
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TONY.F
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I think I need to start buying water proof gun safes and hide my guns before I get throwed in the slammer for a pellet gun!
LIVE LIFE LIKE THEIR IS NO TOMMORROW
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