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Re: Coyote tails [Re: Ditchdiver] #6351643
10/19/18 04:40 PM
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Furbuyer probably figures half the coyotes he buys the tails are tainted anyway.


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Re: Coyote tails [Re: Ditchdiver] #6351645
10/19/18 04:43 PM
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The tails don't matter,dont waste time pulling the bone,just lop them off with the ears and legs.
The only reason I pin them out is I need them guaranteed good for hood trim and hats.

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Re: Coyote tails [Re: Ditchdiver] #6351650
10/19/18 04:51 PM
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Probably shouldn't cut them off.

"The tail bone should be pulled out when skinning and then the tail should be split so it can properly dry. Tails should not
be cut off. The pelts look better complete with the tail, and if there is no portion of the tail extending from the butt the pelt
will be graded Slight Damage."


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Re: Coyote tails [Re: Ditchdiver] #6351653
10/19/18 04:55 PM
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Well I guess If your getting them tanned you can go the extra mile but for the general fur trade I don't see It being an issue.
I have yet to have NFA call me and say well all your coyote tails feel off on the grading table.
And I can tell you this I have marked my coyotes and they have been drummed and kept track of and then I have gone over them with the grader. So far they all left NAFA with the tails on.
I still don't understand coyote grading LOL


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Re: Coyote tails [Re: Ditchdiver] #6351656
10/19/18 04:59 PM
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I assume if your having them tanned you could leave them fur in and no need to turn them? Is that assumption correct?

Re: Coyote tails [Re: Ditchdiver] #6351665
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Yes that is correct,if you know for sure you will tan them all.I go thru them after they are stretched and dried and grade out the ones I will tan, then ship the rest.I handle everything the same.

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Re: Coyote tails [Re: Ditchdiver] #6351667
10/19/18 05:10 PM
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I split the tail and let them hang, period. Have had lots dressed, tails were perfect. The tail is the first part of the pelt to dry. By the end of the first day on the forms, the tail is already stiff. And I'm picky about my fur.....


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Re: Coyote tails [Re: Ditchdiver] #6351673
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As a tanner I can say if you want good tails,they are better split than not split,and better yet when split and pinned.


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Re: Coyote tails [Re: Ditchdiver] #6351682
10/19/18 05:28 PM
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Thanks everyone. I'm not tanning them, they will be sold to the fur buyer. I DO split the tails, just never heard of pinning them. As Mr. Steinmeyer said, the tails are the first to dry, so I never worried about them. I could see a benefit if I was going to tan them though.


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Re: Coyote tails [Re: Ditchdiver] #6351698
10/19/18 05:54 PM
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I don't like to think of it as an extra mile; more like an extra foot. BTW we do have fat on our tails. Probably the first 2 or 3 inches anyway. smile


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Re: Coyote tails [Re: Ditchdiver] #6351717
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Sometimes I think people just like to argue.


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Re: Coyote tails [Re: Ditchdiver] #6351720
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Re: Coyote tails [Re: Ditchdiver] #6351725
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Re: Coyote tails [Re: Ditchdiver] #6351738
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I guess I could be out catching unprime fur. smile


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Re: Coyote tails [Re: Ditchdiver] #6351745
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but its been cold and cloudy so it's probably all prime alredy. smile









Re: Coyote tails [Re: Ditchdiver] #6351755
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For the record, I haven't set a single trap yet.


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Re: Coyote tails [Re: Ditchdiver] #6351767
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tony split all your tails it only take a few minute

Re: Coyote tails [Re: Ditchdiver] #6351768
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also pin them

Re: Coyote tails [Re: Ditchdiver] #6351826
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I'll give it a whirl this year. Can't hurt


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Re: Coyote tails [Re: Ditchdiver] #6351831
10/19/18 08:24 PM
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Getting borderline pelts bumped up by the graders for good handling always improves your avg.
No matter what anyone says,pride in your work does pay dividends in anything you do.

Last edited by Boco; 10/19/18 08:25 PM.

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