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Re: Crossing railroad tracks to access public lands [Re: Boco] #6352389
10/20/18 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: Boco
If the government accepts the liability for the crossing,no problem then for the railroad or the citizens.
I'm surprised the right of way is not fenced.

Yes sir this is correct,
That how railroad looks at it also here
Like boco said kind of surprising it's not fenced off.


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Re: Crossing railroad tracks to access public lands [Re: Muskrat] #6352392
10/20/18 04:52 PM
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Call Tammy.

I really don't see the big issue just cross the freakin tracks. I don't think the RR Is going to give a crap. They do have to catch you you know.


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Re: Crossing railroad tracks to access public lands [Re: Muskrat] #6352399
10/20/18 05:05 PM
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Xing is only $250000. get your fish& game to spring for it.

We call them fishing accesses it's widely disputed deal here too lol

Private property rights and states rights have got to be guarded.

I work for a railroad they will not let any employees trap on there right away unless directly for them( ie ) (beaver damage)


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Re: Crossing railroad tracks to access public lands [Re: Muskrat] #6352400
10/20/18 05:08 PM
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I am not surprised that Tony Evers doesn't care about private property borders, He said at the debate last night that if he was Governor he would give drivers licenses to illegal aliens. I don't believe I will change party affiliations because of this. Mushrat you would vote for the devil over Scott Walker cause he took control of the schools away from the unions and gave it back to the people.

Re: Crossing railroad tracks to access public lands [Re: Muskrat] #6352406
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1) Use emanate domain to seize private land to put in your rail road tracks

2) No longer allow the crossing of said tracks as they are now "private property"

3) When someone tries to get the state to help them with access issues you have caused talk about the importance of protecting private property...

Re: Crossing railroad tracks to access public lands [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6352409
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Originally Posted By: Donnersurvivor
1) Use emanate domain to seize private land to put in your rail road tracks

2) No longer allow the crossing of said tracks as they are now "private property"

3) When someone tries to get the state to help them with access issues you have caused talk about the importance of protecting private property...

Very interesting look at it, thanks.

Re: Crossing railroad tracks to access public lands [Re: Diggerman] #6352421
10/20/18 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: Diggerman
. . . Mushrat you would vote for the devil over Scott Walker cause he took control of the schools away from the unions and gave it back to the people.


You just can't let this go, can you Diggerman. The people have control of the schools? Why don't you start a separate thread on that and see where it goes.

The issue is crossing railroad tracks, snowflake.

If Walker wasn't on the Koch nipple we wouldn't be having this conversation. He had an opportunity to right the wrong, but he's bought and paid for.

IF . . . this issue comes to the public, Walker senses he may lose sportsmen votes, there's a chance he might reverse his position and support what his legislature asked him to support four years ago.

Maybe.


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Re: Crossing railroad tracks to access public lands [Re: Muskrat] #6352436
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I have RR tracks crossing a nearby public Marsh. Not saying I do it but to get to one of the good areas I would have to straddle the tracks and cross them illegally(not saying I do). T. Evers will tell you anything you want to hear.

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Re: Crossing railroad tracks to access public lands [Re: MsgRet] #6352451
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Originally Posted By: MsgRet
. . . T. Evers will tell you anything you want to hear.


What politician doesn't?


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Re: Crossing railroad tracks to access public lands [Re: Muskrat] #6352478
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I remember when we used to hunt the railroad tracks. crazy


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Re: Crossing railroad tracks to access public lands [Re: Muskrat] #6352495
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I dono how you would do this, but try to get the topic brought up in a debate. Maybe if the walker administration see's the sportsman weighing thier odds with differant candidates it will heighten the concern. Kinda late for this cycle, but it cant hurt. And maybe it will start the movement for the next cycle if nothing else.

Re: Crossing railroad tracks to access public lands [Re: Muskrat] #6352500
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I'm with the Beav,..put your ear to the track,iffin you don't hear anything,cross over and get to trappin'
Thousands cross the southern tracks everyday,nutin' seems to happen to them! wink

Re: Crossing railroad tracks to access public lands [Re: Muskrat] #6352501
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If the state wanted you on that land they would create a road to access it, Obviously the state does not want you on their land.
Have some one else ask that candidate to maintain the prohibition to crossing tracks he will get an answer opposite what you got. In either case the candidate will do nothing.

Re: Crossing railroad tracks to access public lands [Re: tjm] #6352517
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Originally Posted By: tjm
If the state wanted you on that land they would create a road to access it, Obviously the state does not want you on their land.


Obviously you don't know what you're talking about.

"The state" built parking areas for folks to park in before heading over the hill. You can't drive down the hillside.


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Re: Crossing railroad tracks to access public lands [Re: Muskrat] #6352521
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They should have budgeted for a crossing at the same time.Maybe they will yet.

Re: Crossing railroad tracks to access public lands [Re: Muskrat] #6352597
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I'm in the camp that says "if they used imminent domain" to get the property to put in the tracks, then they either should put in a crossing or just allow crossing at certain points like the parking areas

If they didn't use imminent domain to get the property, than they should be called out for preventing access by sportsman and other groups and find a way to hurt their pockets, because money talks period

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Re: Crossing railroad tracks to access public lands [Re: Muskrat] #6352602
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They took the land from the Indians for the railroad.

Re: Crossing railroad tracks to access public lands [Re: Muskrat] #6352613
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All the crossings for vehicles have a stop sign, that's it. I think the Corps of Engineers and the barge companies want to lock out sportsman and limit access so they can do whatever they want with little oversite.

Re: Crossing railroad tracks to access public lands [Re: Boco] #6352615
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Originally Posted By: Boco

All you have to do is request a crossing and pay for it.
Imagine the cost though.


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Re: Crossing railroad tracks to access public lands [Re: mnsota] #6352620
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Originally Posted By: mnsota
I'm with the Beav,..put your ear to the track,iffin you don't hear anything,cross over and get to trappin'
Thousands cross the southern tracks everyday,nutin' seems to happen to them! wink
Yeah, but I have a trapping buddy in LaCrosse Co that got a warning for doing just that. He doesn't even know how they figured out he did it. I think there was a photo. Perhaps a hidden camera. He warned me recently about the seriousness of this law. I had no idea. I've crossed tracks before, we all have. A landowner was recently giving me a tour of his land he wants me to trap. He said, "just walk across this short tressle." We did. I told my buddy and he scared me by alerting me to how strict RR R.O.W. law is now. Yikes. Sounds like a lot of fisherman are effected in some areas of the state too.

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