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Re: Pre-Baiting New Areas—-Coon [Re: The Beav] #6339413
10/03/18 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
Why do you want to pre bait $3.00 coon? LOL


Guess it depends on where you are, but Teacher isn't far from me. I averaged $13 and change last year. Guess it depends on how cheap you can get the feed if you're doing it for the return....but who in this market really Is, anyhow.

Re: Pre-Baiting New Areas—-Coon [Re: Teacher] #6341605
10/06/18 11:40 AM
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An Update to dried molasses. Too much rain to tell but it looks like something is hitting the feeders. Dried molasses forms a film/firm layer when it gets damp. Damp also includes moisture from the air after you open the bag! It’s easy to break through but it might be a deterrent. At the second check of the feeders, I put a half a teaspoon of Jonesie’s banana oil on the tops of the feeders and it made a big difference in the feeders getting visited. I know because they scraped the paint off the outside of the feeders to get at it—-but didn’t do much in terms of the molasses powder pulled out.

Yesterday, I Poured out the molasses powder and refilled with fish food pellets. On the outside of the feeders, I sprayed liquid smoke. This has worked for me in the past. I’ll know by Monday (assuming it stops raining!!). It’s all ‘education’ to me. If I can locate coon in areas that are now surrounded by soybean fields, it helps me when season starts.


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Re: Pre-Baiting New Areas—-Coon [Re: Teacher] #6347508
10/14/18 07:17 PM
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It’s been non-stop rain or at least it feels like it. The fish pellet bait sprayed heavily with liquid smoke and goodies seems to be drawing them in. The feeders were less than half full but I was expecting some scratched up areas. Not yet anyway. I set a feeder where I found lots of activity just to keep them interested after the corn comes out. Will set up a trail camera after it stops raining.


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Re: Pre-Baiting New Areas—-Coon [Re: The Beav] #6347557
10/14/18 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
Why do you want to pre bait $3.00 coon? LOL


So that when I take my 12 year old son out to all of the feeders on Friday night and let him set a half dozen DPs around each feeder, on Saturday and Sunday mornings he has coon caught everywhere. He loves being able to say he catches more coon on the weekends than his old man does all week long.

Re: Pre-Baiting New Areas—-Coon [Re: Dfabs] #6347559
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Dump some used fryer oil on the ground around those feeders and let the coon put out your trailing scent for you.

Re: Pre-Baiting New Areas—-Coon [Re: The Beav] #6348001
10/15/18 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
Why do you want to pre bait $3.00 coon? LOL
I definitely wouldn't do it for $3 coon,but averaging $17 per coon and catching 10-20 just off the feeders plus what I can catch rd trapping there and back per day makes a decent payday while still working full time.

For me, coon meat pays expenses and everything else is a check.

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Re: Pre-Baiting New Areas—-Coon [Re: Teacher] #6348026
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We always hear about the $15 coon but never hear about all of the fuel expense,bait,time,ordering supplies,shipping charges,expense driving to conventions,commission fees,running freezers,heat,licenses,scouting,etc.etc. It costs money to buy bait and put gas in the truck but none of that stuff ever gets talked about.It all comes down to being efficient and income vs. expense when talking about making money trapping.$10 here and $5 there,if one would keep a journal of all that wasted money through out the year,it might surprise some.I work off a want and needs list.Google Earth and a phone saves me a lot of time and money.

Re: Pre-Baiting New Areas—-Coon [Re: Dfabs] #6348059
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Originally Posted By: Dfabs
Originally Posted By: The Beav
Why do you want to pre bait $3.00 coon? LOL


So that when I take my 12 year old son out to all of the feeders on Friday night and let him set a half dozen DPs around each feeder, on Saturday and Sunday mornings he has coon caught everywhere. He loves being able to say he catches more coon on the weekends than his old man does all week long.


This is exactly why I set out some feeders last year. Otherwise I would take my nephew and hope we caught something that day. With the feeders I can just about guarantee a catch or two.

I don't think I could profit from setting them out though since there is time/money in buying the corn that I put in them and gas used to go set them and then refill once.

Re: Pre-Baiting New Areas—-Coon [Re: Teacher] #6348065
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What about your trip to the fur buyer,electricity,heat,storage,.22 shells,etc. do you figure all that into your profit? A catch or 2 per trip doesn't appear to be profitable.

Re: Pre-Baiting New Areas—-Coon [Re: tbn] #6348088
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Originally Posted By: tbn
What about your trip to the fur buyer,electricity,heat,storage,.22 shells,etc. do you figure all that into your profit? A catch or 2 per trip doesn't appear to be profitable.


If you don't figure it, you're lying to yourself.


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Re: Pre-Baiting New Areas—-Coon [Re: Teacher] #6348176
10/15/18 01:38 PM
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Trapping doesn't always have to be a money making deal guys. I doesn't have to be profitable for some as long as you enjoy it. How much money do you make bow hunting, fishing, camping, or any other hobby you may have? Sometimes it just comes down to enjoying the time spent and the catches made.


Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine!
Re: Pre-Baiting New Areas—-Coon [Re: tbn] #6348207
10/15/18 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: tbn
We always hear about the $15 coon but never hear about all of the fuel expense,bait,time,ordering supplies,shipping charges,expense driving to conventions,commission fees,running freezers,heat,licenses,scouting,etc.etc. It costs money to buy bait and put gas in the truck but none of that stuff ever gets talked about.It all comes down to being efficient and income vs. expense when talking about making money trapping.$10 here and $5 there,if one would keep a journal of all that wasted money through out the year,it might surprise some.I work off a want and needs list.Google Earth and a phone saves me a lot of time and money.

Well if your already going from point a to point b ( which air port sounds like hes doing )and your able to trap roads you spend say and extra 20 min setting up coon feeders one day. Coon feeders don't have to be complicated. A 5gal bucket with two pieces of pvc stuck through them. You can usually find old 5gal buckets with lids on an on the side of the road down here so that free and most of us all ready have scrap pipe so free again for a feeder.

As for bait you can go to a feed store and ask if they have any damaged bags of corn sweet feed dog food act. They usually have a few a week that are just taking up space or attracting rats.you can usually get it for real cheap or free.heck you can drop of a 55gal drum and tell em you'll haul off all their spilled feed theyd throw away weekly if they put it in the drum for you. You can go to the ole dollar General and ask if they have any damaged bags of pet food and they usually have one or two a week.even if you buy your corn,it's like 7.99 for 50bls of cheap deer corn here and you can fill like three or four five gal bucket feeders per bag. And they don't have to be filled 24/7. Once they know their food their their gonna keep visiting regularly. If your doing meat like air port is if each location get at least one coon a week . Fort one pays for bait and the next three is money for gas or what ever. Again averaging 17 bucks for just the carcass skin,gut,gland,bag and freeze. Really you could toss the fur and not even waste time handling fur if you want. Not to mention you can usually have folks ready to buy them carcasses before they had a chance to freeze. Especially around the holidays.
It's a lil different of a ball game than fur

Re: Pre-Baiting New Areas—-Coon [Re: Teacher] #6348290
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I let the deer hunters feed.


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Re: Pre-Baiting New Areas—-Coon [Re: Teacher] #6352709
10/21/18 12:15 AM
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Truth be told, keeping track of every expense shows how much trapping costs me. Even with a loss for the season, I still get some some $ for my efforts. And yet, sitting in front of the TV or driving to fishing spots on catchless days, or all the time in tree stands when I used to bow-hunt, and rarely bringing game home cost just as much with NO financial return.

Update on feeders. The fish food pellets are being hit pretty well. I got a gallon of liquid smoke for $12 last year and adding this is helping, I’m sure. I can smell it from 10 ft away and no doubt the coon can too.

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Re: Pre-Baiting New Areas—-Coon [Re: John Deere Steve] #6352729
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Originally Posted By: John Deere Steve
Trapping doesn't always have to be a money making deal guys. I doesn't have to be profitable for some as long as you enjoy it. How much money do you make bow hunting, fishing, camping, or any other hobby you may have? Sometimes it just comes down to enjoying the time spent and the catches made.


This.

Making a profit on fur is nice, no argument here; however I can't put a price on the look on my 12 year olds face when she walks up to a coon in a trap she set. Or when I watch her skin, flesh, and board a pile of $4 coon. Or when she averages $6 on her lot of coon and wants to use the money to buy more traps. It's not always about the money.

Re: Pre-Baiting New Areas—-Coon [Re: kyron4] #6353113
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Originally Posted By: kyron4
Originally Posted By: John Deere Steve
Trapping doesn't always have to be a money making deal guys. I doesn't have to be profitable for some as long as you enjoy it. How much money do you make bow hunting, fishing, camping, or any other hobby you may have? Sometimes it just comes down to enjoying the time spent and the catches made.


This.

Making a profit on fur is nice, no argument here; however I can't put a price on the look on my 12 year olds face when she walks up to a coon in a trap she set. Or when I watch her skin, flesh, and board a pile of $4 coon. Or when she averages $6 on her lot of coon and wants to use the money to buy more traps. It's not always about the money.



x2!!!!

Re: Pre-Baiting New Areas—-Coon [Re: Teacher] #6353357
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I use to use feeders, but now dig all my baits in. I believe it makes the site work longer because the smell of what ever you are using gets in the soil. I have had coon Fox, coyote Bear and deer dig in the spots for months because the smell is in the soil. Molasse and persimmon oil mixed with meat fish or grain really works well in feeders or ground.


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Re: Pre-Baiting New Areas—-Coon [Re: Teacher] #6353541
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How often do you guys refill the feeders?


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Re: Pre-Baiting New Areas—-Coon [Re: Teacher] #6353616
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I was wrong Wolfdog, I didn't know Teacher has a Meat Market. Good Luck

Re: Pre-Baiting New Areas—-Coon [Re: Teacher] #6354129
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I re-apply about a quart to the loose soil about every 10 days.


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