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Re: Flat bottom trapping boat? [Re: Newt] #6352117
10/20/18 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted By: Newt
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I had an Ice jigger on It once but It was way to radical and just about tore the boat apart and just about killed me. LOL


what is a "Ice jigger" ?



It's like an out board motor but Instead of a prop It has a large toothed gear. When you lift the tiller the gear engages the ice and away you go. IT can be a real radical ride. As long as you don't have a heavy snow covering you can get along pretty good.
On that 8'10" boat It was a wild ride.

I think Muskrat may still have one.

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Re: Flat bottom trapping boat? [Re: beaver trapper] #6352120
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Re: Flat bottom trapping boat? [Re: beaver trapper] #6352143
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On glare Ice It's a blast. Once you get It going and raise the gear your out of control. But a little bit of snow will slow you down. I think some of the guys put some type of a ski on the bottom of the boats.

On a big boat lets say a 14' Its not so radical since those motors weren't to powerful.


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Re: Flat bottom trapping boat? [Re: beaver trapper] #6352145
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I tried to a do a search but couldn't find anything.


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Re: Flat bottom trapping boat? [Re: Newt] #6352158
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Originally Posted By: Newt
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I had an Ice jigger on It once but It was way to radical and just about tore the boat apart and just about killed me. LOL


what is a "Ice jigger" ?


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Re: Flat bottom trapping boat? [Re: beaver trapper] #6352742
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Think your talking about a ice scratcher boat Beav?? There was a company in Stoddard WI that made a couple different Hp models commercially, if I remember correctly. Bet it was a rough ride on that short of boat.

Re: Flat bottom trapping boat? [Re: beaver trapper] #6352747
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Hard to have too many different boats for trapping and hunting!

Here's a video of me and my oldest trapping spring beaver with a 12 foot skiff. It has it's place, but is slow and bogs with a load.


Here's a video of us using a little 1432. It was fast empty, but also wallowed under a load, and was narrow and tippy. But it had it's place in small creeks.


Different floats for different boats. I run a range from 12 foot skiff to a 24x48 Monark jon boat. If you're careful and stay within your boats limits, you ought to stay dry.

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Re: Flat bottom trapping boat? [Re: Buck19] #6352813
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Originally Posted By: Buck19
Think your talking about a ice scratcher boat Beav?? There was a company in Stoddard WI that made a couple different Hp models commercially, if I remember correctly. Bet it was a rough ride on that short of boat.


The fella in Stoddard quit selling them quite awhile back after receiving advice from his lawyer. I've got one that hasn't seen ice for quite awhile now. When rats go back up to making money, I'll resurrect it again for the big river.

If you don't have runners on the underside, you'll tear the underside up over time. A fella can usually find beat up old Jon boats cheap enough to rationalize not investing $$ to upgrade to runners.

There's a trapping buddy of mine down here who just picked one up at an auction. Last I heard he's still looking to sell it. PM me if interested.

Re: Flat bottom trapping boat? [Re: beaver trapper] #6352814
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Yeah, had a 1232 once. I think we all had some forms of the 12s. I love john boats and have 3 currently...But best thing I did was sell the 1232. I'd never trap out of one again where I can't touch bottom...because that's where you'll be at some point.

The higher sided Lund fishing type boats are a lot more buoyant. Harder to trap out of, but those high sides will keep you from going Blub Blub Blub at times.

Pros and cons to about any boat design.

Re: Flat bottom trapping boat? [Re: Calvin] #6352839
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Originally Posted By: Calvin
. . . I love john boats and have 3 currently...Pros and cons to about any boat design.


Ain't that the truth.

I too have three Jon boats. Got a 12' that is stashed in a back marsh to access this area with oars for a week. Some winters I use it on early ice as a sled, before snow. Get into a questionable area, walk around back to the stern, grab the transom, and push across. Hear the ice cracking jump in and skid across. If I bust through, I'm in a boat. Push to thicker ice and use the spud to lever out.

The 14' awaits the scratcher.

And the 18' is for duck hunting and fishing. Got a 35 hp longtail on that one. Now I see Go Devil has a 40 horse longtail out. Will have to check with Ron Paul in Fox Lake to see what his feelings are on that one.

16' V-bow with another 35 hp longtail for trapping. I prefer the V-bow over the flat for heavier payload in the bow.

And two canoes. An old standard 17' Grumman my wife and I paddle down a river occasionally for the ambience. It's also my mule lashed to the side of the 18' Jon loaded with gear when headed to deer camp in the river bottoms. Have had that since I was a kid.

The second canoe is a 13' Sportspal. I love that canoe. Fella can throw that over a shoulder and walk into a back slough with traps and such in the other hand. Got a 2 hp Honda air cooled standard outboard that will push it in those long stretches in the back slough.

There is no such thing as one boat does all. My first wife thought so.

Re: Flat bottom trapping boat? [Re: beaver trapper] #6352842
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Re: Flat bottom trapping boat? [Re: Aknative] #6352879
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Originally Posted By: Aknative
. . . I run a range from 12 foot skiff to a 24x48 Monark jon boat . . .


That ain't no jon boat. That's an aircraft carrier!

Got a picture?

Re: Flat bottom trapping boat? [Re: beaver trapper] #6353437
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Here's this years moose and caribou hunt, it has some stills in it. Too easy to carry too much crap in such a big boat! Need more discipline next go round.



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Re: Flat bottom trapping boat? [Re: Aknative] #6353508
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Excellent in all respects!

Thanks!

Re: Flat bottom trapping boat? [Re: beaver trapper] #6353533
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Running an 18’ Lowe Stinger with 60 HSP Merc, we tow a 12’9” Golden Hawk Canoe with snap cover behind with decoys and traps. Works well when you love to trap and your son loves to duck hunt.

Re: Flat bottom trapping boat? [Re: beaver trapper] #6365355
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I was looking for a 10 or 12 foot cheap Jon boat for awhile just for a 12 foot wide stream that went up and down in depth like a yo-yo but never more than 5 foot deep. Also a 10 acre pond that is not very deep. Could never find one on craigslist so I used reverse psychology and put in a "wanted to buy Jon boat ". I must have got a dozen responses and found the perfect 10 footer with 2 brand new wooden oars for 100 bucks. I keep 2 floating seat cushions in it for safety,but have never really used it in water over my chest.

Re: Flat bottom trapping boat? [Re: beaver trapper] #6366068
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Calvin said it all!

I was going to give an answer, but don’t need to. Too small jonboat is never safe. Size matters.

I had a 10 foot aluminum canoe that was very wide in the middle so very stable. However I used it only along shore and at least half of the time as I waded setting traps it was tied to me on a short leash as a work platform.


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