However, maybe Jim can lawyer up on this one. If the railroad tells you not to cross the tracks and doesn't enforce it, and you do cross the tracks, does that not relieve them of liability in case you get hurt on their property? Kind of a Wink! Wink! deal.

Then again Jim left out the fact that the Alaska Railroad is owned by the State of Alaska. So,I guess you could blame the State of Alaska for preventing Jim from accessing his public land.

"If the railroad tells you not to cross the tracks and doesn't enforce it, and you do, does that not relieve them of liability in case you get hurt on their property?"

Why would you want to enforce the RR's trespassing policies for them? lol

Under AK law, a landowner does owe a duty of reasonable care that extends even to trespassers. If an owner pursues hazardous activities on his land, and doesn't use reasonable care to protect others, he might be liable. If the plaintiff can convince a jury to award damages.

But the legislature could grant the RR at least partial immunity from lawsuits.

Jim

I done some internut research Jim and it seems unlikely that the railroad would get sued if they put up some liability signs at these crossings. Stuff like "Danger No trespassing." Then somebody would actually have to get hurt, which is highly unlikely. I saw nothing that the railroad has to police this. You were warned and now you assume the liability for your own actions. Guys can go fishing and the railroad can maintain their property rights. Win,Win. Well except for the lawyers.

However in the tin foil area BNSF is Buffet's railroad and he was Obama's buddy and probably ain't a Walker fan.

Form an organization dedicated enough to get it changed. If your will is stronger they will cave.

Tactics to include:
* rent a dozer and create a safe crossing("oops, wrong address")
* car trouble at a crossing 10 min before the train is scheduled (every day)
* dump truck load of gravel on the tracks
* protests at the crossings
* protests at the companies that use that rail company

Most are likely to end up with fines or jail, but maybe the railroad will give in.

I'm on your side with this. Railroad is no differant than a transmission line. If the railroad cant make reasonable ways for people to cross its continuous barricade it's time to show them where to stick it.

mutt you go first...I will follow you.lol...but it might be cheaper to pay for a crossing! lol

Sure would be a shame if the railcars started a fire in that area in the spring and the wildfire crews couldn't get there to put it out.

I like violence as much as the next guy, but probably you would get a better reaction with some protest signs at a crossing, having your sad children holding fishing poles and whining about how the children are being robbed of their heritage. Set this up with the local television station. 20 whiners should be enough just narrow the camera view so viewers don't know how few you are.

Big companies hate bad press.

All across the the NW mountain states they have "trespass fees", so in some states I guess you can rent some one permission to trespass. I've always thought trespass was a crime, but ...

just heard a rumor they are putting tracks at the mexican border to stop the herd of immigrants.

great news!we can also use the freight trains to haul them free cell phones ..food stamps ..and voting packets!

Hey Muskrat, you following.....

https://www.jsonline.com/story/spor...change-railroad-crossing-law/4692862002/

Look who led the effort, the irony.

Yuppers, been in the works for awhile now. Let's hope they can work together and fix the problem.

This isn't really a liberal vs conservative issue.

Its a local vs the rest of the state and lobbiest issue.

Tho writers and sponsors are from the region affected.

The rest of the state doesn't care.

Glad to see that this issue is back in the news and it is the hope of many Wisconsinites that the law is changed to benefit the sportsman for once!

Chris

I still believe some of the reason this no crossing the tracks came about. Was in retaliation to all the greenie type people here along the river complaining about the oil trains..Maybe now that they have quit their campaign to stop the trains.. Them politicians can get us back across the tracks..
I did see a guy go across the other day looked to be going trapping..Where he was parked is a good chance that rail road Dick will check him. He might have crossed at the road grade by where he was parked.. Sled tracks in snow kinda din't look that way??

Mac

I've had no issues.



Same goes for the members on here who give us all sorts of reasons why we shouldn't be accessing public lands and waters by crossing the tracks like we've done all our lives. They really don't care and it doesn't affect them directly.

Maybe common sense of this issue is beginning to sprout in Wisconsin. I sure don't see it coming from the governor's office, either past or present.

Well, Muskrat, maybe things like our trip to Stoddard are starting to pay off.

Moosetrot

I just contacted Sen. Tiffany and Rep. Swearingen from this area asking them to cosponsor LRB 5428. I hope others do the same with their legislators whether you have a personal interest or not. Legislators need to know that sportsmen care about these types of issues.