Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
[Re: Moosetrot]
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If you are talking about a hornets nest I usually wait until it gets below freezing just to be safe. Then carefully take it down get some good pics and list on eBay.
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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I use a product called Tempo. Spray it on or close to go the hive. Once they walk on it and take it on them into the hive, the rest will get it on them and die. Works great on any number of insects and won't harm pets. Been using it for years, little pricy but a little goes a long way!
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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12 ga. 3-4 quick rounds of #9 should kill most of the hornets as well. And someone with a video camera.
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
[Re: Moosetrot]
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When I was a kid about 10, I thought it would be fun to throw rocks at a nest, Figured I could out run 'em. Didn't work so well and I am a lot slower than I was back then.
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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Just hit it a couple of times with the shotgun. Best if done with your turkey gun. Just shoot traps loads.
One thing to consider is, have they been a problem to you up to this point? If not, I would just let them be. The only time I have done anything about bees by the house was ones that decided they needed to build a nest in the ground by the house. And by the house I mean right by the blocks. Can not say they bothered us but that is just too close. Dumped about a gallon of gas down the hole. Problem solved. No, I did not throw a match on it.
Bees are very important for pollination. I don't kill them unless they are the mean little sobs that live in the ground where I like to frequent. If they are not within 20' of the house I just leave them alone. I don't like getting tagged 6-10+ times when out of that range but I learn to walk around that area. I know in an hour or two you won't even be able to tell I got stung. That is just me. If you are allergic to them I can see not wanting them around.
Got a funny story about my Dad, a dozer and a jack russel running over a ground nest. That dang dog fight like heck to save my Dad until he tossed her off. The dog was laid up for a couple a few days. Dad did not say how many times he got stung but he drove the dozer out of it.
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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If you are talking about a hornets nest I usually wait until it gets below freezing just to be safe. Then carefully take it down get some good pics and list on eBay. I wonder if you should make sure that everything inside it is dead first. I would think if you microwaved it for a little while that would do the trick.
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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Just hit it a couple of times with the shotgun. Best if done with your turkey gun. Just shoot traps loads.
One thing to consider is, have they been a problem to you up to this point? If not, I would just let them be. The only time I have done anything about bees by the house was ones that decided they needed to build a nest in the ground by the house. And by the house I mean right by the blocks. Can not say they bothered us but that is just too close. Dumped about a gallon of gas down the hole. Problem solved. No, I did not throw a match on it.
Bees are very important for pollination. I don't kill them unless they are the mean little sobs that live in the ground where I like to frequent. If they are not within 20' of the house I just leave them alone. I don't like getting tagged 6-10+ times when out of that range but I learn to walk around that area. I know in an hour or two you won't even be able to tell I got stung. That is just me. If you are allergic to them I can see not wanting them around.
Got a funny story about my Dad, a dozer and a jack russel running over a ground nest. That dang dog fight like heck to save my Dad until he tossed her off. The dog was laid up for a couple a few days. Dad did not say how many times he got stung but he drove the dozer out of it. Wasps and hornets are not honey bees. Wasps and hornets attack and kill honey bees at the hive. I'd ask that you reconsider giving them a pass. There's likely a local bee keeper that has issues with them.
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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[quote=~ADC~]12 ga. 3-4 quick rounds of #9 should kill most of the hornets as well. And someone with a video camera. Do it at night, they can't fly in the dark.... probably. [/quote At least I never seen one fly in the dark
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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12 ga. 3-4 quick rounds of #9 should kill most of the hornets as well. Lol, We used to shoot the Carpenter Bees , the ones that drill in the wood in barn. Bird shot with the 12ga we would let them fly in the big door side and BAM. Like skeet but smaller. Your comment brought back the Memory lol.
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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Here's a picture I borrowed off the 'net to show what kind of nest this is. Mine is pretty much the same except bigger. I am going to wait until it gets good and cold here to do anything with it. Muskrat-If I can get it down intact I will put it in a bag and spray in some Raid or something...just in case. I'm doing a bunch of gun shows in Spring and will put it up for sale. Warrior-By looking at the nest do you think I can safely assume it's bald-faced and will be empty once we get some good hard freezes? The Yuppies who have moved in around me will have no tolerance for blasting them with a shotgun, much less a lot of other stuff I have done here for years. They are a plague. Thanks for all the advice! Moosetrot
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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FCOL at the ignorance.
Life cycle of the bald faced is that the colony dies each year at the first good hard freeze. Only the mated daughter foundresses (queen) overwinter and they do so away from the parent nest. At this time of year there's no need to treat it. Just wait until after the first hard freeze to remove it. Interesting. I had more than a couple of nests brought into the classroom by students during the winter months that started dropping live hornets about third hour as the nest warmed up.
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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Seems like a lot of folks have an interesting story about a bald faced hornet's nest. Awhile back on a fishing trip to the Turtle Flambeau, Patrice and I spotted the perfect one, right on the edge of the road near the boat landing and only 6 feet up in some thick brush. Next morning we came back early and it was cold, about this time of the year, armed with cans of wasp and hornet spray. We hosed that baby down good and went fishing for the day thinking that when we came in at the end of the day it was ours. I stopped the truck and began cutting it loose from the branches when Patrice remarked that it was odd to hear an outboard motor this close to the road. Being the astute feller that I am I yelled run! and took off down the gravel road. Patrice commented that I looked like that keep on truckin guy from the 70's. As a side note I do not recommend leaving your truck running with the doors open while removing a hostile nest as it makes you look kind of foolish to the other folks leaving the landing. Next morning we stopped back, clipped it into a garbage bag and soaked it again with spray and that was the end of them. It hangs proudly in our house yet today.
Moosey, do not leave the nest too much longer as the woodpeckers will trash it. Given your recent hip replacement it would behoove you to recruit an agile but somewhat dimwitted assistant.
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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Ah, the memories! I just saw this, Moosey! Those bald faced hornets are tougher sometimes than you'd think! Zim and I looked so foolish standing there on foot waaaaaay down the highway from our truck which we couldn't reach. Armed with nothing but a can of Raid that was almost useless. As we were running I would turn around and try to shoot behind me. Too funny! I hit a few stragglers that went buzzing in circles along the pavement behind us. I'll never forget that sound as they buzzed around in circles on the highway and still wouldn't quite let go. Wow! In the end it took three trips and three full cans of Raid. It took a long time before I was sure that more of them wouldn't come out of that nest when we least expected it. This is what bald faced hornets look like. And here it is, in our home. There. THAT was easy! Good luck to you, Moosey. I hope we hear back about a successful mission!
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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Moostrot let me know when your going to tackle that baby. I'll bring my camera set in video mode?? just to help of course.. Be great adventure! LOL!
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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It sounds more like bald face hornets than paper wasps that you have. Paper wasps build under eaves and sheltered type areas. I get them underneath the railings on my deck. Any insecticide that specifies it kills hornets will work. Regular flying insect killer just makes them mad.
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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Always have loved that one ! Boy howdy, Patrice, does that story bring memories ! I laughed at your "keep on truckin " image - know that art instantly Many years ago I too cut a nest of Baldies , thought it was evacuated for the winter, brought it inside my cabin in Idaho , set it on a shelf in a back room and went about the day. A few hours later when I returned , I was horrified to see them trying their best to warm up enough to fly. One did manage to take off and slowly fly my direction toward a window....it sounded like a B-52 ! Like you, Ill never forget the sound. I ducked aside and proceeded to swat them all before they had the chance to take off. I didn't even want the nest after that- I took it outside and burned it. Like T 7 mentioned, paper wasps are the tame ones of the clan....the most tolerant ....yellow-jackets bad, Baldies terrible. I saw a takeover of Baldies on a yellow -jacket nest. It was a fight that lasted some hours, with the Baldies winning and tearing apart the nest. Ugh.......
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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I have heard that hornets can come right through a plastic garbage bag. Is that true? And are they not chopping up wood fibers to make that paper nest? That would make a Hefty bag seem like child's play ...
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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Just spray it with a hose. Everyone knows they cant swim.
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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I don't know how fast they can fly but it is faster the a 10 year old boy pedaling for his life downhill on his bicycle. One stung me right in the eye my head face swelled up like a pumpkin. I didn't look near death so of course the old man wouldn't let my mom take me to the doctor. Took a few days before I was back to just being homely.
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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The only one I ever saved , I cut down after a cool down in weather . Placed it in an air tight tote. Left an open dish of rubbing alcohol inside the tote with it for few days (seems like maybe a weekend long)?? Hung in the breezeway between house and garage for many years, after airing it out some. I have heard of springtime hatches if the eggs/ larvae survive the winter. Might want to consider a spray on preservative for the outside of the nest, lasts longer they say.
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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This ^^^ :lol
Yup, baldies are way worse than paper wasps. They and their nests are much tougher. All the papers are dead here in SE WI. Blue Jays n such have trashed their nest for the larvae. Rains have what's left rotting quickly. Haven't seen any baldies lately... but you never know.
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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Raid work well. If you hit them with the can just behind the neck. One whack and they are done for. Try it. If there are more then one, its a good idea to have a can in each hand.
Let's go Brandon
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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Wasps gather at the hive at dusk so nuke it just after dusk and kill em all.
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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Baldies must be much larger where you are, Michael ! I think Id use my 44 mag lever in that case ! You want to keep that rife close by for the mosquitos.
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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You forgot one thing.....the Green Bay Packers Thong......still laughing!
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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9 I use a product called Tempo. Spray it on or close to go the hive. Once they walk on it and take it on them into the hive, the rest will get it on them and die. Works great on any number of insects and won't harm pets. Been using it for years, little pricy but a little goes a long way! ^^^^^^^ just asked my son ,what he used for those nests.....he worked for a pest control company for 5 years....he said TEMPO ...and do it at night...get it at ...do my own pest control.com
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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I think bald faced hornets all die except for some queens that have mated. The queen will start a new nest the next year all by herself. Winter weather will wreck the old nest. The new nest will only be a couple inches in diameter. After some eggs hatch all she does is lay more eggs and the new hornets keep working on the nest. Hard to understand how it grows (unlike a pumpkin) they must be constantly working on it. Jim I don't know how this works if they never have freezing weather.
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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LOL... you guys are hilarious! LOL.
but seriously, gasoline and a flare works pretty good.
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Re: How and When to Deal With a Huge Paper Wasp Hive
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LOL... you guys are hilarious! LOL.
but seriously, gasoline and a flare works pretty good. Dude, you are taking all the fun out of the " advice" we give here captain obvious
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