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Re: "If America is destroyed.... [Re: Gary Benson] #6360369
10/29/18 09:39 PM
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The right in this country have really radicalized. To be against a 75-year-old program that several generations of Republicans have accepted and supported!

Jim


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Re: "If America is destroyed.... [Re: Gary Benson] #6360371
10/29/18 09:42 PM
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To be for or agaisnt is irrelevant. Math will kill it either way.

Re: "If America is destroyed.... [Re: Gary Benson] #6360373
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Don't understand how bailing on something broken and non-repairable is being radical.


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Re: "If America is destroyed.... [Re: James] #6360374
10/29/18 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: James
The New Deal saved a lot of people and gave them hope.

Social Security still is the only thing that keeps millions of seniors out of poverty.

Jim


The end justify the means


Who is John Galt?
Re: "If America is destroyed.... [Re: Gary Benson] #6360378
10/29/18 09:46 PM
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SS isn't broken. It supports million of American seniors.

Odds are someone you're related to relies on SS.

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Re: "If America is destroyed.... [Re: Dirt] #6360382
10/29/18 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted By: Dirt
Originally Posted By: James
The New Deal saved a lot of people and gave them hope.

Social Security still is the only thing that keeps millions of seniors out of poverty.

Jim


The end justify the means


The government forces me to pay taxes to support a bloated military that's larger than we need. I don't have a choice not to support it.

What's the difference?

Jim


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Re: "If America is destroyed.... [Re: James] #6360384
10/29/18 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: James
SS isn't broken. It supports million of American seniors.

Odds are someone you're related to relies on SS.

Jim


Actually we are a big family and each working member pays monthly to support the eldest that would be using SS. Years of being told of SS's failing had the rest investing in retirement plans and or pensions believing SS would have been long gone by now.


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Re: "If America is destroyed.... [Re: Gary Benson] #6360386
10/29/18 09:52 PM
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Some people have predicted the demise of SS since its inception.

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Re: "If America is destroyed.... [Re: Gary Benson] #6360387
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Retirements are an individual need. Military is a national need.

I can provide my own retirement.


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Re: "If America is destroyed.... [Re: Gary Benson] #6360391
10/29/18 09:55 PM
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Individual x millions is a national need.

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Re: "If America is destroyed.... [Re: Gary Benson] #6360394
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No it is not.


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Re: "If America is destroyed.... [Re: James] #6360400
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James, I agree with you when it comes to the military and the welfare state supporting the military industrial complex.

The rest not so much.

They are all systems of the same problem.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: "If America is destroyed.... [Re: James] #6360402
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Originally Posted By: James
Individual x millions is a national need.

Jim


Need?


Originally Posted By: James
The right in this country have really radicalized. To be against a 75-year-old program that several generations of Republicans have accepted and supported!

Jim


Versus 150 +\- years without it.

Last edited by amspoker; 10/29/18 10:06 PM.

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Re: "If America is destroyed.... [Re: Gary Benson] #6360406
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That puts you on the far right of the political spectrum, imho.

Good luck getting your agenda through Congress. If word gets out that the GOP are planning to cut SS, they can say goodbye to the House and Senate.

So I suspect they'll keep their plans secret until after the election.

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Re: "If America is destroyed.... [Re: James] #6360415
10/29/18 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: James
That puts you on the far right of the political spectrum, imho.

Good luck getting your agenda through Congress. If word gets out that the GOP are planning to cut SS, they can say goodbye to the House and Senate.

So I suspect they'll keep their plans secret until after the election.

Jim


Where did this come from? I'm not the GOP.


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Re: "If America is destroyed.... [Re: James] #6360420
10/29/18 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: James
That puts you on the far right of the political spectrum, imho.

Good luck getting your agenda through Congress. If word gets out that the GOP are planning to cut SS, they can say goodbye to the House and Senate.

So I suspect they'll keep their plans secret until after the election.

Jim


Nope, not far right, Libertarian.

The GOP won't touch SS and Medicare.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: "If America is destroyed.... [Re: Gary Benson] #6360425
10/29/18 10:20 PM
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I'm far right. I even build my own roads. smile


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Re: "If America is destroyed.... [Re: Steven 49er] #6360442
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Originally Posted By: Steven 49er
James, I agree with you when it comes to the military and the welfare state supporting the military industrial complex.

The rest not so much.

They are all systems of the same problem.

symtoms


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Re: "If America is destroyed.... [Re: Gary Benson] #6360468
10/29/18 11:06 PM
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I have several relatives that are seniors on social security.

it should have stayed for seniors who paid into the system only.

congress should have never been able to steal from it.

it does help a lot of seniors , the issue is that congress stole from it with very little difference from organized crime stealing form Union pension funds they should be in the same prison.

A state run pension fund that is for people who paid in to have a retirement and leave the work force at 62 or 65 isn't the issue it is all the other things they awarded the "benefit" to that shouldn't have come from that fund.

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America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: "If America is destroyed.... [Re: FlyinFinn] #6360485
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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
To be for or agaisnt is irrelevant. Math will kill it either way.



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