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Management changes at nafa #6360144
10/29/18 06:11 PM
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NAFA just announced some upper level management changes.

Herman Jansen is officially retiring. For the last 10 years he has been the Managing Director. He started in the fur business in 1966, with Hudson Bay & Annings in London, England.


https://www.hideandfur.com/exchange/Wiss...mp;unfiltered=1

Herman was always a staunch and active supporter of wild fur. Will be interesting to see what happens when he steps away.

Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6360145
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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6360147
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Sorry. Not giving that out. I will try to find another link that works for everyone.

Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6360148
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Try this link - directly to the NAFA web site

http://www.nafa.ca/senior-management-changes-nafa/

Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6360216
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Wonder if this is the " downsizing " that nafa is starting already. Things are going to be interesting in the fur world the next 5 years to see who survives and who doesn't.


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6360218
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How much is Herman Jansen's Golden Parachute for his "Retirement Compensation" ?

One million Southern U.S. Coat Coon Pelts ? laugh

Happy Trails, Herman !!! laugh

Don't let the door, hit you in the.......Well, You Know.......... laugh

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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6360239
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Funny they didn't put a chinaman in charge.

Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6360280
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"BEAVER AND MUSKRAT SHINE AT NAFA'S MAY SALE" 1997

He was President then.

Good Job Mr. Jansen


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6360537
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That's a lot of knowledge to walk out the door in a marketplace that is extremely volitale- not to mention all the customer relationships. Sounds like they're heading in a different direction.

Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6360656
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Saw one year his travel expense was 500 grand, I think they'll be just fine, ranch mink is their bread/butter, wild fur is more a flea market affair than an actual profitable business. Fur farmer's did a great job.


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: Jtrapper] #6360750
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Originally Posted By: Jtrapper
Saw one year his travel expense was 500 grand, I think they'll be just fine, ranch mink is their bread/butter, wild fur is more a flea market affair than an actual profitable business. Fur farmer's did a great job.


One thing no one is taking into account is the possible major reduction in ranch mink that may be coming in the next couple years. Nafa is fine this year but what about next year and the following year. Nafa needs that wild fur too.


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6360841
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mink99, You sound a little worried. You might be entering my world soon. Finding new ways to sell your product.

I'll give you something to worry about. I noticed on egg carton the other morning that the eggs were certified "Cage Free" Apparently, that's important to consumers.

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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6360980
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I am a little worried as I have seen what new management can do to a company. Maybe it will be just fine, maybe better. We will see.

As far as cage free, so be it, but I am more worried about the perception of the leghold trap being inhumane.

That is why there is the certification for ranch and wild fur. It really is the only answer for the European and American consumer for now.


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6360985
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Certification of ranch fur has nothing to do with legholds. It has to do with farming practices that Europeons find objectionable. Probably why the farms are getting banned.

You should take over Herman's old job as the spin doctor.


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6360991
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It isn't total new management for NAFA. Doug Lawson has been with NAFA for 8 years. He is more of a numbers guy than a fur guy but he has had plenty of time to learn from Herman.

And Mike Mengar is still around as the Managing Director. Though he is more a ranch mink person than a wild fur person.

Seems to me like it would be worthwhile to give them a chance before the bad mouthing starts.

I think the bigger problem is the glut of ranch mink available. If those numbers can be gotten under control, I think the wild fur market will improve. It won't be gang busters like in the late 70s but it should be better than it is right now. IMO

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The fur industry is in huge trouble worse than it ever has been. Dirt !. Maybe you could head PETAs anti fur ranch campaign grin

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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6361002
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I can't feel sorry for Europeon farmers who actively supported the wild fur ban in the eighties.


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6361010
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Eurotrash. Met a lot of good people raising fur in US unfortunately overproducing be it fur,milk,corn is a product of good markets and good old capitalism greed In listening to Groeny and talking to fur buyers most agree this is worse than 87 or the late 90s the worst market they have witnessed


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6361032
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Originally Posted By: wissmiss
Seems to me like it would be worthwhile to give them a chance before the bad mouthing starts.


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6361063
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I am not bad mouthing anyone.

Dirt, what the heck are you talking about?


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