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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6361748
10/31/18 01:32 PM
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This is how the Europeon fur industry views the U.S.

"Major competitor of
the European market
due to the availability
of wild fur."


Who is John Galt?
Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6361762
10/31/18 01:57 PM
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Yeah the Europeans want to take over the whole fur industry and the real reason for certification was to do just that. It wasn't to make fur look more humane it was to put as many fur farms out of business as they could and to make trapped fur look horribly inhumane.


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6361779
10/31/18 02:28 PM
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If that's true, why are we playing softball?


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6361793
10/31/18 03:06 PM
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We have no choice. That rock is rolling down the hill. Designers want it now to showcase fur as humane or they will use the fake junk instead. We lost a few designers already.

We need more people to stand up for this business in this country. Need more money donated to trapping organizations. Still a lot of trappers out there that don't belong.


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6361797
10/31/18 03:12 PM
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Seems to me since we own NAFA we don't have to sell Eurotrash fur. Wasn't NAFA set up to sell our fur (North American fur producers)?


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6361819
10/31/18 03:53 PM
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You think NAFA could survive on just American fur? To be one of he big dogs in the ranch mink industry Nafa had to get more mink. Thus the intrusion into Polish and other European fur.

In other words, it was all about ranch mink.


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6361829
10/31/18 03:59 PM
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Are you paying them to be the big dog or get you the highest prices with the highest clearances?


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6361954
10/31/18 06:54 PM
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Oh I want the highest prices and clearances. But I don’t think they could attract enough buyers without the European end put in there. That is why I am concerned with nafa in the future. They are going to lose some mink in the coming years.


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: mink99] #6362207
10/31/18 11:03 PM
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If we continue to not like the European leverage in the fur market we need to understand a lot about where those fur ranches are going. If the Eastern block nations become the preferred options for the Dutch, Danes and Norwegians then we will be working with much different trading policies and experiences with these emerging nations than we have had with the northern European region. Some of that could bode well and some could be negative. If they can produce fur at much lower prices they can be sustainable at high numbers and much of what they produce will be direct competition to a lot of our wild fur. We could be heading into a lower fur price era. Several of the northern European nations will not be able to ranch fur in the not too distant future and we will have to watch how that unfolds.

Bryce

Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6362526
11/01/18 11:42 AM
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If NAFA is hurting for money they can do what they did last time and sell 26% more of the company to the WFSC. smile


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6362557
11/01/18 12:29 PM
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Well They bought more land In Stoughton and built a new building for mink.
It looks like the wild fur Is going to go back to the original building. They also have a 7 year plan to add on more buildings. So I don't think they are going to go anywhere.
Of coarse they could go under like any other business.


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6362631
11/01/18 03:00 PM
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I don't think they will go under. Just pretty sure they will have to downsize after this coming year. I don't believe NAFA is hurting for money yet.


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: The Beav] #6362675
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
who cares I'm selling through groney.


I cannot believe what I just read here! You been sucking up too much marsh mud lately?

Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6363946
11/03/18 10:43 AM
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Well mink99, looks like things are getting rough all over. FHA canceled their Jan Auction. Moving their annual shindig to Jan when people are probably trapping.


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6363959
11/03/18 11:07 AM
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Saw that. You want to talk about a company dependent on European sales to sell product they would also count. I see they are sending their, what was it, sable and bobcat back over to Saga for the June auction.

Also FHA could put out a market forecast for once. Only been over a year since the last one.


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6363966
11/03/18 11:21 AM
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They said sable was in demand. Not mine. frown


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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6363970
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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: wissmiss] #6363972
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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: Dirt] #6364034
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Originally Posted By: Dirt
If NAFA is hurting for money they can do what they did last time and sell 26% more of the company to the WFSC. smile


The WFSC; Wild Fur Shippers Council, Now-A-Days pretty much consists of BOCO and Gibb pounding brews at North Bay, Ont. Strip Clubs while watching the Peelers. smile

Don't They also Do some trick with a Ouija Board to figure out how to market certified, traceable, sustainable Canadian Wild Fur ? laugh

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Re: Management changes at nafa [Re: mink99] #6364076
11/03/18 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: mink99
Saw that. You want to talk about a company dependent on European sales to sell product they would also count. I see they are sending their, what was it, sable and bobcat back over to Saga for the June auction.

Also FHA could put out a market forecast for once. Only been over a year since the last one.


Yes, FHA sends North American produced wild fur and ranch fur to sell in Europe. NAFA sells Europeon produced fur. They are not the same thing.

So North American produced fur is sold along side of Europeon produced fur. Competing for buyers

As opposed to bringing Europeon produced fur to North America to be sold along side North American produced fur. Competing for buyers.


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