Re: Baptist
[Re: brianmall]
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11/01/18 02:20 AM
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...but we are not ready to accept any help from the State, ... Do Baptist churches not take advantage of 501c3 tax exemption? That’s a new one to me. I love Spurgeon and the Baptist legacy. But there’s holes in every castle.
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Re: Baptist
[Re: brianmall]
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11/01/18 03:36 AM
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danny clifton
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when did the Baptists decide not to honor the sabbath anymore and keep it holy? (Saturday) you know the 4th commandment.
“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
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Re: Baptist
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11/01/18 03:39 AM
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Danny, how do you know which day the Lord started counting on?
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Re: Baptist
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11/01/18 03:52 AM
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danny clifton
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well Christianity is an off shoot of Judaism. jews still use Saturday. the bible said jesus did too. so I just wonder why that commandant got changed or get's ignored now. I believe it started with Constantine and the bible he put together. if Baptists want to claim existence predating Catholicism why did they change the sabboth when the original catholic church did? or did the baptists keep the sabbath a little longer and change for some other reason? or did early Baptists come up with the idea of church on sunday before Constantine changed it? did the bible the Baptists use predate Constantine and history is wrong on who put it together. I am confused. going to start some coffee and get ready for work. bout to give myself a head ache trying to figure this stuff out
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Baptist
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11/01/18 04:18 AM
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Danny, how do you know which day the Lord started counting on?
Must have counted same as the Jews. Luke 4:16 (NKJV) 16 So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read.
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Re: Baptist
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This also shows the difference.
Mark 16:1 Now when the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome brought spices, that they might come and anoint Him. 2 Very early in the morning, on the first day of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen.
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Re: Baptist
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11/01/18 08:12 AM
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sabbath is under the law, we are now under grace. That is if one allows grace into to their life on GODS terms. Exactly. Then there is cheap grace.....Once saved always saved. Sinning and trying to cover it with the blood over and over again. Of course I am Pentecostal so you know where I am coming from. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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Re: Baptist
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Just another bunch of proddys. I love ya boco. But some time I can't tell if your serious, or just looking for a fight? So I just gonna say ok Boco is Catholic, you know the one true religion, so of course he is looking for a fight. That should get a fight started.
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Re: Baptist
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John 1:2 tells us Jesus is the only way to heaven and that we do not need man to confess to nor do we need a Pope to save us. "1My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world." I would never trust a man in Rome to discern scripture for me. It is unbiblical. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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Re: Baptist
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As I will never trust any pastor or church leader to discern scripture for me no matter how GODLY that person is. It is my responsibility hear and search and discern, to know Gods word and act on it. I alone will answer for me alone to GOD
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Re: Baptist
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11/01/18 09:23 AM
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As I will never trust any pastor or church leader to discern scripture for me. It is my responsibility to know Gods word and act on it. I alone will answer for me alone to GOD AMEN! You need to read it to know it also. Very few read it but think they know it. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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Re: Baptist
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11/01/18 09:31 AM
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So why sunday and not the sabbath anymore?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Baptist
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11/01/18 09:40 AM
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So why sunday and not the sabbath anymore? Why so legal danny? Do you understand why the Sabbath exists? If you did you would not worry about it what day it came. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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Re: Baptist
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11/01/18 09:51 AM
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Early Christians called the first day of the week "The Lord's Day", and started worshiping on that day. It didn't start with Constantine. Check Acts 20:7
Also Colossians 2:16&17 "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.
The law (Ten Commandments) where the "shadow of the things to come".
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Re: Baptist
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11/01/18 10:38 AM
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danny clifton
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No one is going to answer why constantine changed it?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Baptist
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Constantine didn't change the common day of worship from Saturday to Sunday; the early Christians did. Maybe he made the day official, but it didn't start under him.
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