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Needing written permission to trap? #6370218
11/10/18 12:32 PM
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I’m wondering what most other states have as requirements for permission to trap. Here in north Dakota we have to have written permission to trap on other people’s land. Hunters only need verbal permission. We have an ongoing debate in the state to make all private land posted which most of our surrounding states have. I personally support that idea, I’m not against letting people hunt on my land in certain corcumstances but in today’s day and age it’s not hard to get ahold of landowners and no one can go in your backyard if it isnts posted. Got me thinking if we should be trying to get that written permission provision should be lobbied to be done away with. Seems like we’re discirminating against trapping. Seems counterintuitive but if you don’t need written permission but still need permission for access regardless seems like it takes care of itself.

Re: Needing written permission to trap? [Re: Nodak63] #6370230
11/10/18 01:07 PM
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The Va Hunting & Trapping Guide doesn't differentiate between hunting and trapping with regard to permission on private land. On posted property written permission is required and a violation is punishable by a fine of up to $2500 and/or 12 mo in jail. On unposted property only verbal permission is required and a violation is punishable by a fine of up to $500.

Re: Needing written permission to trap? [Re: Nodak63] #6370236
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It's written here to trap and verbal to hunt but also everything is posted and land owners own to the middle of the river..

Re: Needing written permission to trap? [Re: Nodak63] #6370259
11/10/18 01:57 PM
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Here in New Mexico it's went to written permission about 7,8 years ago. I understand why the written permission exists and it makes sense but I have ran into some problems to the point I don't hardly hunt anymore.

One time 4 of us were bird hunting with the land owner, who was a doctor, and he was called into work and we kept hunting and the game warden stopped and checked us and asked for the written permission. We told him what happened but it was still touch and go as far as a citation, all said and done he didn't cite us. Another time I spoke to a land owner about deer hunting and he gave me permission but became very upset that he had to give written permission to me to hunt and would not do it.

It's pretty remote out here and if the property wasn't posted and there was no cattle around I would dove hunt on it. I found that a lot of property owners live in other states and probably kept the property because it was an old family homestead so asking permission wasn't going to happen.

I understand it but it sucks

Re: Needing written permission to trap? [Re: Nodak63] #6370469
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written to trap OR hunt here


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Re: Needing written permission to trap? [Re: Nodak63] #6371150
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Re: Needing written permission to trap? [Re: Nodak63] #6371165
11/11/18 02:06 PM
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Requiring written permission is another stupid feel good law. How does a warden know if the note you have was written by your mom er I mean the landowner or not? How does the warden access the property your on without written permission?

Anybody willing to trespass property owned by someone who doesn't live on it, or have any way to check on it, will be happy to write their own note. Even with a note the only way for L.E. to check for permission is to contact the landowner. I am confident it is rare for a warden to contact the landowner. Absent other violations, it is more likely the land owner will call L.E. if there is a problem.

I am amazed at some of the stupid ideas that have made it through various legislatures.


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Re: Needing written permission to trap? [Re: Nodak63] #6371189
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It would be a protection for the sportsman Danny.

Re: Needing written permission to trap? [Re: Nodak63] #6371269
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Oklahoma regs state...

"No person may trap on the inhabited land of another without first obtaining from the owner or occupant thereof a written permit to do so."

I've always had questions about that statement. It states "inhabited" land. So if it is an uninhabited piece of land owned by someone who lives elsewhere, it would seem that verbal permission via a telephone call would suffice. Yes?

I always get written permission to cover my backside. But it seems that I don't necessarily have to if the owner resides an inconvenient distance from the land I wish to trap.

Of course if you are hunting, verbal permission is sufficient. Funny how that works.

Mike


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Re: Needing written permission to trap? [Re: Nodak63] #6371986
11/12/18 01:58 PM
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its all a little ridiculous - but i always get written permission if I'm going to be on the property alone.


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Re: Needing written permission to trap? [Re: Nodak63] #6372027
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Written permission Georgia and Alabama.


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Re: Needing written permission to trap? [Re: Nodak63] #6372118
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Written permission to trap private land in NC.


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Re: Needing written permission to trap? [Re: danny clifton] #6372170
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Requiring written permission is another stupid feel good law. How does a warden know if the note you have was written by your mom er I mean the landowner or not? How does the warden access the property your on without written permission?

Anybody willing to trespass property owned by someone who doesn't live on it, or have any way to check on it, will be happy to write their own note. Even with a note the only way for L.E. to check for permission is to contact the landowner. I am confident it is rare for a warden to contact the landowner.



In most cases LEO's /EPO's just have dispatch locate numbers if applicable. Don't know why someone wouldn't get a contact # for the "just in case" you get checked or someone complains. Here all it takes is someone to call on a hunter or trapper in the woods and that person will be checked out. If they check out and have permission to be there, no issue, if not depending on the ofc'r they are given a warning or cited for trespassing. Seen some folks who believe it isn't a big deal to be on property that they don't own, zero tolerance. Once advised of private property and or If the owner trespasses them and they are seen on the property again they are subject to arrest for the violation no questions asked. It's not rare for an officer to do their job here and make contact to see if an individual is legally on property if called out for a complaint. States may vary but our EPO's have full police powers on top of environmental law enforcement.


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Re: Needing written permission to trap? [Re: Nodak63] #6372171
11/12/18 07:00 PM
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You only need verbal permission to trap, hunt, and fish in Illinois however with the increase of people outdoors and nosey neighbors I take the extra step to try and get permission in writing. I just explain to the land owner I only need verbal permission however if I'm stopped by an officer or neighbor they will most likely call to confirm and if I have it in writing that should be enough to satisfy any inquiring minds and they won't have to be bothered again.


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Re: Needing written permission to trap? [Re: Beavertrapper24] #6372234
11/12/18 08:20 PM
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Not required in wi. But it seems to me it may be required in some states in order to prevent legal confusion or transfer liabilty

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