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.22 ammo with no exit? #6375034
11/16/18 11:03 AM
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Is there any .22 ammo out there that wont exit the far side of a coyote with a chest shot? Thinking of going to the .17 mach 2 or even hmr but not sure if those will exit?

Re: .22 ammo with no exit? [Re: shortliner16] #6375041
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.22 shorts? Are you hunting these coyotes or shooting up close?

Re: .22 ammo with no exit? [Re: shortliner16] #6375046
11/16/18 11:16 AM
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Cb shorts.

Re: .22 ammo with no exit? [Re: shortliner16] #6375050
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.22 32 Grain CCI Segmented Hollow Point.1640 FPS

The Quiet 740 FPS (low power) are also great for dispatch without exit also.

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Re: .22 ammo with no exit? [Re: Trapper Don] #6375055
11/16/18 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Trapper Don
.22 32 Grain CCI Segmented Hollow Point.1640 FPS



This one^^

The subsonic round they make won't segment out of a handgun.

Last edited by Hal; 11/16/18 11:27 AM.

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Re: .22 ammo with no exit? [Re: shortliner16] #6375057
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This is for upclose shooting. I have tried the 32 grain cci stingers with no luck on not exiting, tried some subsonic hollowpoints this morning that exited. I don't think I have seen those segmented hollowpoint ones.

Re: .22 ammo with no exit? [Re: shortliner16] #6375074
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Stingers and Quik Shok's are different animals when comparing terminal ballistics. The QS fragments into 3 bullet fragments and the plastic gas seal shortly after impact. Penetration is governed by the horrible BC of the fragments. They are very effective.

Be aware that there are 3 CCI segmented loads 710, 1050 and 1640. Out of a 4" revolver the slower two will not fragment.

Re: .22 ammo with no exit? [Re: shortliner16] #6375075
11/16/18 11:55 AM
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CCI CB Long from Rifle does the trick! Dead Coyotes don't bleed or lie.


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Re: .22 ammo with no exit? [Re: shortliner16] #6375077
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Re: .22 ammo with no exit? [Re: shortliner16] #6375463
11/16/18 09:36 PM
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Put it through the shoulder into lung heart area, a lot of times it stops at the skin

Re: .22 ammo with no exit? [Re: shortliner16] #6375526
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regular velocity long rifle 40 grain lead bullets out of a revolver. lots slower than a rifle


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Re: .22 ammo with no exit? [Re: shortliner16] #6375537
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High powers can over penetrate just the standard ammo or shorts are less likely to go as far, some of that hot stuff will damage the wire on cages.


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Re: .22 ammo with no exit? [Re: shortliner16] #6375559
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22 shorts have worked for me in the past on coons.

Re: .22 ammo with no exit? [Re: backroadsarcher] #6375585
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Originally Posted by backroadsarcher
22 shorts have worked for me in the past on coons.


Been using more shorts this year they get it done better then them quiet .22s the shorts are better around cattle yards and don't harm the cages like the hot loads do, same price if not more for the shorts just the noise factor is worth it.


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Re: .22 ammo with no exit? [Re: shortliner16] #6375595
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Over the years, I have tried various loads from both a rifle and a handgun. My goal is to have low noise, very quick results, no exit, and never the necessity of a second shot.

My general findings:

In a rifle, long rifle loads are too strong because they build up too much speed and energy in the long barrel. This combo I don’t use.

In a handgun, long rifle loads work very well because they do not build up the excessive speed and energy in the shorter barrel. So this combo works fine.

Hollow point shorts are fine from a rifle because they don’t have sufficient powder to build up the excessive speed and power. This combo is my second choice.

In my experience, shorts are too weak from a handgun. They simply do not have the powder to build up decent speed or power. I don’t use this combo.

A bullet needs sufficient energy and velocity to mushroom or fragment which results in the trauma causing a quick kill.

Low velocity Sub-Sonics, specifically Remington are not effective. When Coon hunting and using that ammo, I could sometimes hear the bullets bouncing off of the coon.

For handguns, the longer the barrel, the stronger the load will perform. I notice a difference between a Ruger SP101 with a 4” barrel, a Ruger Mark II with a 5.5” barrel, and a Ruger Single Six with a 6.5” barrel. Plus the Mark II uses some of the spent gas to cycle the bolt.

I am very interested in trying the CCI Long Rifle segmented hollow point loads at 1640 FPS shot from a handgun. I just found them at Cabelas for $6.99.

Best wishes.


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Re: .22 ammo with no exit? [Re: shortliner16] #6375684
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22 short hp in a 6.5 inch ruger single six, works on coon coyote and snared beaver.

Re: .22 ammo with no exit? [Re: shortliner16] #6375688
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I have a 17 hmr (golden boy it’s really the nicest lever gun I own) and I can tell you from my experience you do not want to dispatch with a 17 hmr, too explosive. Yeah maybe you won’t have a exit all the time but if you do it’s going to be much worse then a 22 of pretty much any flavor. 22 shorts or subsonic work good.

Re: .22 ammo with no exit? [Re: shortliner16] #6375706
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These are almost as quiet as a pellet rifle....even quiet out of a pistol. [Linked Image]


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Re: .22 ammo with no exit? [Re: shortliner16] #6375726
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I shoot out of a pistol nothing as quiet with no exit as a 22CCI CB short .

Re: .22 ammo with no exit? [Re: Jim T.] #6375733
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Originally Posted by Jim T.
I shoot out of a pistol nothing as quiet with no exit as a 22CCI CB short .

I'd wager a bet that the Colibri above are twice as quiet. Guaranteed


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