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Re: Traction troubles [Re: FlyinFinn] #6374794
11/16/18 06:00 AM
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When I bought my 2012 4X4 Ford F-350 it was brand new. Why a company would put street tires on a ton truck I do not understand. After I had to be pulled out by a 2X4 Ranger I took off the street tires & put a set of mud & Snow tires on the 4X4. Best move I ever did. It was a little salty buying new tires when I had less than 20,000 miles on the truck, but now I have a truck that can get in there & back out on the road.


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Re: Traction troubles [Re: ambush32] #6374863
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Originally Posted by ambush32
I drive an hour and fifteen minutes to work one way, an hour on the expressway, I’ve tried 2 different tires and they suck...to me expressway driving is much different as it builds up with ice quickly...

Any suggestions on a good tire?

F150 1/2 ton...

Thanks


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Re: Traction troubles [Re: FlyinFinn] #6374883
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Sold my 2002 Silverado and bought a 2013 F150. The 150 seems to get slip on heavy frosted grass! Somebody told me recently that I need to turn off the traction control feature in off road snow conditions. Does that make sense to your Ford guys?

Re: Traction troubles [Re: FlyinFinn] #6374897
11/16/18 09:02 AM
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Like others have said, it's all about the tires, not the vehicle itself. And four wheel drive only helps you go, not stop or turn. Skinny tires are best but nobody wants to change tire sizes and have a goofy looking vehicle. You need a nore aggressive tread pattern. You need some sort of chunky-treaded tire that won't pack with ice and snow and effectively turn into a racing slick.

Re: Traction troubles [Re: FlyinFinn] #6374898
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It's all about weight In the box.

I built a box that fits between the wheel wells and filed it with sand. No problems after that. Weight equals traction.
If you get stuck then It's because your not warped to tight. LOL


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Re: Traction troubles [Re: FlyinFinn] #6374899
11/16/18 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyinFinn
I have a 2009 GMC 3/4 ton gas 4*4 four door short box. It absolutely sucks on snow. It has 10 ply radial hankook tires that are 3 months old. This is the first snow I've driven on but it's pretty much deadly. Slip sliding even on the highway. I took it to get a load of firewood today and had to give up as soon as I drove off the gravel into 2 inches of snow on a slight incline. Are all 3/4 tons this worthless? My brother has a diesel model and he said his is terrible on snow. I doubt I will buy snow tires for it, guess I'll just make do.

Yes all 3/4 tons are worthless if you keep the tires jacked up to the recommended 65-70 lbs. I run mine at 35-45 lbs psi. I can not stand how hard they hit bumps and potholes with 65-70 lbs psi. The garage told me " You will not get good tire life running them like that" TOTAL BS. I got 52,000 from my last BFG AT K2s. Remember, the more traction you need the less air pressure. On sand I have run 12 psi and drove around trucks in 4X4 while I was in 2X4. I would not run 12 psi on the road but I always run 30-35 in the winter. Thats the difference between a 1/2 ton and a 3/4 ton, 8 ply at 35 lbs psi and 10 ply at 70 lbs psi.


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Re: Traction troubles [Re: Muskyman45] #6374902
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Originally Posted by Muskyman45
i had the same issue when i went to a 3/4 ton diesel i tried new tires and nothing work until i put on 6ply winter force tires.now i can go as much or more than a 1/2 ton with very good tires. i would of bought 10 ply winter force tires if i new they would work but after trying several other tires i went with 6ply as i normal don't haul heavy load in the winter time.

Thats because the lower tire pressure gives you better traction.6-8 ply will always give better traction then 10 ply unless you drop the pressure of the 10 ply to 25-30 lbs


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Re: Traction troubles [Re: FlyinFinn] #6374915
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As we always said during winter Ralley Racing....Tires keep your butt on the road.

Re: Traction troubles [Re: FlyinFinn] #6374974
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You put highway tires on that Bigfoot truck it won't do any better then any other truck, tires make winter driving better get a set of cheap Roadian M/Ts and they can be studded I believe but I never needed to stud mine!


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Re: Traction troubles [Re: FlyinFinn] #6374987
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Lowering tire pressure is okay if not carrying a load, it increases the footprint of the tire in contact with the pavement. It also causes more sidewall flex, though, which is what causes heat buildup and tire failure. You guys are probably fine at 35psi with no load, but I wouldn't go much lower than that. The 80psi specs on the 3/4-1 ton trucks are because they are expecting a load, which requires more tire pressure to carry said load.

Re: Traction troubles [Re: FlyinFinn] #6375100
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I found the weight of a camper shell will make a huge difference, plus it will help keep stuff in the back dry.


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Re: Traction troubles [Re: FlyinFinn] #6375122
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I've had no issues on my 1/2 ton Silverado running Good Year Wrangler ATs. Good in ice and snow. Good highway running.
Weight in the box helps a lot for traction in all conditions.


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