Re: Long distance hunting.
[Re: Finster]
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11/19/18 01:33 PM
11/19/18 01:33 PM
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I zero my gun at 300 yds have never lost a deer Have a swaro with the bt turret 4,5,6, 700 yard turret marks set to my hand load and tested on the bench at each distance. if you guys dont think this is hunting come on out to the prarie. i have stalked many miles . you dont sneak up on a big old buck out here .. first of all he doesnt lay down just any old place always some where he has plenty of room to see whats coming. i feel comfortable at 500 .. 600 is ify for me . the guys that say a whitetail cant see well havent hunted many deer! I missed a deer a few years ago didnt have my range finder with they were laying on a hill side i snuck to a fence line and they were 63 posts north of me on a cross fence .. having built a few miles of fence posts were 7 steps or bout 21 ft apart... this fence looked wider apart so i guessed them 25 ft making him 525 yds.. watched him a while and decided if i could sneak east a cpl hundred yard there was a draw and id be able to sneak to a dug out and and would put me 300 or so .. Man he was nice buck had a long drop tine .. id hunted him a few times.. started sneaking east away from the deer and mind u i was behind a barb fence weeds at the fence row so a little cover . a cpl of the does busted me and jumped up.. I froze The buck stood up not alarmed .. i had shooting sticks and was steady.. i had him in the scope ... beautiful i was on my way to the taxidermist when i squeezed it off shot below him bout 20 ft short clean miss .. i went and stepped off the fence posts 10 steps.. 30 ft who the @#@$^ builds a fence with posts that far apart !!
i guess that wasnt hunting...lol not fair chase?? most bucks die of old age . most of our deer are harvested via ambush wait in a spot you know there likley to come too . sit on a hill spot the deer and stalk as close as ya can ... most of the time its not very close .. if i get my self within 500 yards im pullin the trigger .. over the years i can think of a few that were wounded by someone in our group .. but i cant think of one we didnt get.. seems if someone gets a bullet in one were able to track which way he went and get on him again . guess that becomes a advantage being in wide open .
The only place you find free cheese is in a mousetrap !
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Re: Long distance hunting.
[Re: Osky]
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11/19/18 01:53 PM
11/19/18 01:53 PM
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jbyrd63
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Plus geez all this because I killed a deer at 317 yrds off handed LOL..... No, I saw none of this as relating to what you did. Osky DIDN'T read the first post to close did you lol
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Re: Long distance hunting.
[Re: Boco]
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11/19/18 01:59 PM
11/19/18 01:59 PM
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I disagree J byrd.I have stalked many animals just to take a picture and hone my stalking skills.It is still hunting to me even without shooting. Ok I stand corrected on the shooting part. Been in the woods plenty and didn't shoot anything , but still said I was hunting......
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Re: Long distance hunting.
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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11/19/18 05:05 PM
11/19/18 05:05 PM
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Anybody here ever hunt antelope? Mike last time i tried i couldnt get close enough to count his whiskers so went home with tag soup
The only place you find free cheese is in a mousetrap !
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Re: Long distance hunting.
[Re: Finster]
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11/20/18 09:19 AM
11/20/18 09:19 AM
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if you can do so safely and legally, I have no issues with how anybody decides to hunt.
I don't want the game to know its being pursued - but I like to know that they should know....but don't.
most of my hunting is under 50 yards, maybe out to 100 in a few spots. the only time its getting any longer than that is if I"m sitting on the edge of a field.
there is skill involved with getting close to the game, and skill involved in making a long shot
its a slippery slope to be putting down how others enjoy the outdoors
Josh
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Re: Long distance hunting.
[Re: l1ranger]
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11/20/18 02:22 PM
11/20/18 02:22 PM
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if you can do so safely and legally, I have no issues with how anybody decides to hunt.
I don't want the game to know its being pursued - but I like to know that they should know....but don't.
most of my hunting is under 50 yards, maybe out to 100 in a few spots. the only time its getting any longer than that is if I"m sitting on the edge of a field.
there is skill involved with getting close to the game, and skill involved in making a long shot
its a slippery slope to be putting down how others enjoy the outdoors It is a slippery slope whenever outdoorsmen and women dont work together, but its even worse to use methods that have a very good chance of wounding game that others will find later. I have no problem with LDS as long as the shooter has the ability to make those long shots. Simple fact is most dont. To many think they can, thats the problem. Bowhunters kill game in every state / province so the idea that you cant close the distance and have to take long shots doesn't hold water.
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Re: Long distance hunting.
[Re: Finster]
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11/22/18 02:20 PM
11/22/18 02:20 PM
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Well, I'll share my opinion on this, not directed at anyone in particular.
I think the distance you can stalk and approach an animal is directly proportional to your hunting skills. How many of these guys would be able to stalk to within 20 yards to make a clean shot with a recurve or longbow? That would be much more impressive to me.
Shooting 800 yards with a precision made piece of equipment doesn't impress me all that much, and doesn't take that much skill. If you have the money to experiment with these things, Its just a matter of dialling it in and away you go.
How many of these "shooters" have the skill to determine precise distances at those ranges? (Probably none). But slap up a $1000 laser rangefinder, and it will tell you. Im quite confident anyone without any sort of hunting skills could pull off these shots, as long as they have the time and money to invest in the equipment required to do it. All you have to do after that is head out for a walk and hope you can spot something within view.
I dont care how many clean kills are observed in these videos, there are probably three times as many clean misses and wounded animals that they don't show. A change in wind direction 600 yards out that you cannot see will change your bullet trajectory, possibly for the worse.
I don't think it is great publicity for hunters, as I think most people can extrapolate other outcomes of these attempts at long range shots. Not trying to start an argument here but have you ever shoot 500 yards let alone 800 or 1200?? I'll bet you haven't. It isn't easy and requires not only skill but understanding of ballistics to a degree that you probably have never even thought about. To think that just anyone can buy expensive equipment, shoot for awhile and pull off these shots speaks volumes on the ignorance you possess in this matter. Just a question here, how do you know that there were all of these misses and wounded animals? That goes for everyone on here saying that . Just because you may not have the skill level to be able to do this doesn't mean no one else has it. Maybe they never wounded an animal in their lives. You just don't really know for sure do you? There is no evidence other than your "theory and conjecture" is there? Good grief, I post a video of some amazing shots and the Fudds come out of the woodwork.... Pretty sad the way I see it. It is sad Finster. They act like those guys just stumble somewhere and shazaam, there stands a deer at 1000yds. lol. Those guys probably put more time in scouting and shooting than the Elmers who sit on the same stump every year and shoot one with their old 30-30.
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Re: Long distance hunting.
[Re: Finster]
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11/22/18 02:21 PM
11/22/18 02:21 PM
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danny clifton
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what about atlatls? ban them? takes too much practice to get proficient?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Long distance hunting.
[Re: Finster]
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11/22/18 03:04 PM
11/22/18 03:04 PM
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Cool video. Seems some people have not been exposed to shooting distance. Questioning if people can consistantly hit targets at 1000 yards, find a long range sportsmans club and watch some of the shooters there. Admittely 1000yds is far but its not beyond what a decent shooter and weapon is capable of. Also believe it or not very often you can watch were you bullet hits. No, not everone will check for blood but thats true at any yardage. Yes I have shot distance, with both open sights and glass. It looks like its pretty much the same weapon in most of those shots. I am sure the owner of that weapon is very aware of what that weapon is capable of.
Last edited by topknot; 11/22/18 03:07 PM.
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