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Marijuana is illegal under federal law even in sta #6377901
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So we all know that marijuana is not legal from the Federal Gov. eyes and is a felony I beleive, if over so much but is against the law. My question is if the people that use it and if truthful shouldn't be able to buy a firearm. I application has that question on it for buying a gun. Right?

So these people voting for this and using the product are taking their rights away to purchase a gun. I do know there are many people that didn't know that it is a federal offence. They voted this to happen and never realized the federal gov. doesn't recognize it as being legal.


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Re: Marijuana is illegal under federal law even in sta [Re: snowy] #6377926
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Re: Marijuana is illegal under federal law even in sta [Re: snowy] #6377931
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^ thanks 330. I haven't bought a gun for many years but I thought that was a question.


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Re: Marijuana is illegal under federal law even in sta [Re: snowy] #6377934
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Interesting...


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Re: Marijuana is illegal under federal law even in sta [Re: snowy] #6378012
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I can spend half my paycheck buying enough whiskey to pickle an elephant and the other half buying a gun... I can even have all those bottles of whiskey in my car when I pull into the gun store parking lot to go buy the latest and greatest scary, black, semi-auto death machine...

And as long as I am not slurring my speech, stumbling around, and reeking of booze I can buy a firearm.

Why don't we just add a field sobriety test, BAC, and pee test, on top of the background check? If the tests show any traces of anything, booze, dope, prescription meds, you're denied.

Reckon that will stop gun crime and keep criminals from getting guns?

Mike


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Re: Marijuana is illegal under federal law even in sta [Re: snowy] #6378022
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Alcohol, tobacco, and firearms was my buddy's bachelor party, and never should have been a government agency.

Re: Marijuana is illegal under federal law even in sta [Re: Mike in A-town] #6378025
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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
I can spend half my paycheck buying enough whiskey to pickle an elephant and the other half buying a gun... I can even have all those bottles of whiskey in my car when I pull into the gun store parking lot to go buy the latest and greatest scary, black, semi-auto death machine...

And as long as I am not slurring my speech, stumbling around, and reeking of booze I can buy a firearm.

Why don't we just add a field sobriety test, BAC, and pee test, on top of the background check? If the tests show any traces of anything, booze, dope, prescription meds, you're denied.

Reckon that will stop gun crime and keep criminals from getting guns?

Mike


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Re: Marijuana is illegal under federal law even in sta [Re: snowy] #6378032
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Just because it's "illegal" in some states doesn't mean it gets prosecuted. Lots of things are illegal that never get enforced.

I know a guy who legally arrested a guy with 252 lbs of marijuana. Prosecutor said "meh...it's only weed".

Locally our mayor stopped the police from arresting people (well OK...just the black people) for selling weed on the street corner.

So yeah...it's illegal...but not really.

So there ya go.

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Re: Marijuana is illegal under federal law even in sta [Re: Calvin] #6378035
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Originally Posted by Calvin
Just because it's "illegal" in some states doesn't mean it gets prosecuted. Lots of things are illegal that never get enforced.

I know a guy who legally arrested a guy with 252 lbs of marijuana. Prosecutor said "meh...it's only weed".

Locally our mayor stopped the police from arresting people (well OK...just the black people) for selling weed on the street corner.

So yeah...it's illegal...but not really.

So there ya go.



Why did they keep arresting the white people ?


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Re: Marijuana is illegal under federal law even in sta [Re: snowy] #6378040
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Because they can't be racist, NvHermit!


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Re: Marijuana is illegal under federal law even in sta [Re: snowy] #6378049
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Im pretty sure that in the past pot heads never lied to buy a gun ,what makes yoy think they do now?


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Re: Marijuana is illegal under federal law even in sta [Re: snowy] #6378053
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Give drug companies control over marijuana so they can mark up the price 10,000%.

Re: Marijuana is illegal under federal law even in sta [Re: NvHermit] #6378054
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Originally Posted by NvHermit
Originally Posted by Calvin
Just because it's "illegal" in some states doesn't mean it gets prosecuted. Lots of things are illegal that never get enforced.

I know a guy who legally arrested a guy with 252 lbs of marijuana. Prosecutor said "meh...it's only weed".

Locally our mayor stopped the police from arresting people (well OK...just the black people) for selling weed on the street corner.

So yeah...it's illegal...but not really.

So there ya go.



Why did they keep arresting the white people ?

Honestly, it probably is just about economics, not race. Most minorities utilize public defenders which drains resources and results in negative income to the "legal system". Whereas when whites are arrested, especially the larger drug dealers, there is a much greater likelihood they will hire their own lawyer and actually pay fines.

Notice I used the term "legal system" and not "justice system". My attorney friend told me that "legal system" is the correct term to use because it is not about justice, but it is a system that revolves around law, for the purposes of making money.


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Re: Marijuana is illegal under federal law even in sta [Re: snowy] #6378063
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Here is the deal in Maine. This very question comes up in alot of conversations. If you have a green card (medical mary J user card) there are no records open to the public that shows who has the card. With it being legal now in Maine most dont bother with a card but many still do for there own reasons. So if you admit to having a green card you would not be allowed to purchase OR POSSES a firearm due to Federal regulations.
A few years ago in the town where I live a couple had a party. The couple were caregivers and had a large fenced in mary jane grow. Some guys at the party came back later in the early morning and robbed the care givers of several lbs of Mary Jane. Cops were called and cops were successful at recovering the Mary Jane that was stolen. Cops returned the mary Jane to caregivers laugh.
I saw one of the cops later that week and I asked "How often is it that you return pot to the rightful owners?" He shook his head and said "Thats a first for me"


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Re: Marijuana is illegal under federal law even in sta [Re: snowy] #6378068
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Missouri Just passed medical mj under certain medical circumstances.
I said this very thing before it passed.. Anyone that has a condition that qualifies and gets the card, will not be able to purchase a gun any longer. Still illegal on the Fed level.

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Originally Posted by Northmocats
Missouri Just passed medical mj under certain medical circumstances.
I said this very thing before it passed.. Anyone that has a condition that qualifies and gets the card, will not be able to purchase a gun any longer. Still illegal on the Fed level.

Only if you admit to having a card. How else would anyone know? Also, there is a situation where you could get a card but not be a user. I guy I knew (he has passed now) had a brain tumor. He had a card. He has never had a drivers license. Another guy got his green card so he could pick up and transport the Mary J for the guy that had the tumor. The 2ed guy did not smoke but thought that was the only legal way to get the guy his MJ without taking a chance on getting busted for illegal possession.

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Re: Marijuana is illegal under federal law even in sta [Re: snowy] #6378089
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boehner is lobbying for legal marijuana at the federal level it won’t be long now


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Re: Marijuana is illegal under federal law even in sta [Re: snowy] #6378101
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I believe your a Felon if when Busted, you have just ammo in possesion in the Governments eyes.
Let alone a firearm.
Could be wrong .
Just the impression i got when looking into Caregiver /Grower card.

Be a quick way for a political party to commit suicide after voting "recreational use", into state law in michigan.
So maybe why its not being pursued.

Back to original question ,
I believe if you answered "YES" to the question , you forfeit your right to purchase.


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^ that is how I understand it also.


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Re: Marijuana is illegal under federal law even in sta [Re: snowy] #6378135
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No one answers yes to that question or any others that will keep you from passing that's just common sense.

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