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storing wax dirt #6384245
11/28/18 09:46 AM
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What type of container do you store your waxed dirt in? While at the Escanaba, Mi national convention this summer Mark June stated to don't store in a 5 gallon pail because it will mold. Currently have mine in paper bags and in boxes.

Re: storing wax dirt [Re: coykill] #6384251
11/28/18 09:57 AM
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Mine are all put up in one gallon clean milk jugs to be stashed near sets. I've never had waxed dirt mold before. Was there moisture left in the dirt? Should be bone dry when you start, then keep it dry and sealed to store.
I've got some leftover from last year and its still fine am using it this season.
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Re: storing wax dirt [Re: coykill] #6384254
11/28/18 10:00 AM
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I keep mine in 5 gallon Home Depot Buckets, I've never had any issues but Mark would know best.

Re: storing wax dirt [Re: coykill] #6384255
11/28/18 10:01 AM
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when I was making It I stored It In those cardboard barrels with snap top lids.


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Re: storing wax dirt [Re: coykill] #6384256
11/28/18 10:02 AM
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This is the first year I have made it. I haven't had it mold. That is what Mark June said. I will be making it again next summer. Great stuff. That is what I thought-no moisture = no mold but he is the expert.

Re: storing wax dirt [Re: coykill] #6384288
11/28/18 10:45 AM
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5 gal pails....no mold here


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Re: storing wax dirt [Re: coykill] #6384317
11/28/18 11:27 AM
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5 gallon buckets here too. No problems


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Re: storing wax dirt [Re: robert.d12] #6384352
11/28/18 12:07 PM
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Re: storing wax dirt [Re: coykill] #6384368
11/28/18 12:29 PM
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27 gal tuff totes with the lids loose.............

Re: storing wax dirt [Re: coykill] #6384370
11/28/18 12:34 PM
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30 -50 gallon barrels, no mold, some barrels 5 yrs old..... mold needs moisture, possibly Junes dirt wasnt thoroughly waxed. If dirt particles were all encapsulated in wax and dirt was dry shouldnt have molded. Mold needs air and moisture to grow. I may be wrong.


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Re: storing wax dirt [Re: coykill] #6384374
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55 gallon drums here with lids gapped to let it breath. Dry dirt to start with also.


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Re: storing wax dirt [Re: coykill] #6384377
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I gallon zip lock bags in five gallon buckets


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Re: storing wax dirt [Re: coykill] #6384723
11/28/18 08:15 PM
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The key is to not seal it tightly in plastic containers or it can condensate inside with temperature changes. As long as it can breath, you will be fine.

Re: storing wax dirt [Re: JTfromWV] #6384805
11/28/18 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JTfromWV
The key is to not seal it tightly in plastic containers or it can condensate inside with temperature changes. As long as it can breath, you will be fine.


Bingo.
It has nothing to do with the dirt and how dry/moist it is when treated. It all about plastic in humidity = condensates moisture = it can cause trouble.
We made Freeze Proof dirt for 9 years in the '90s and we learned a WHOLE bunch about the process from making the best, most durable product, and how to best store it. When you're making tons at a time, you figure out good from bad real quick!

I remember standing next to two pallets of waxed dirt made by a company in the upper Midwest a few years ago that was being stored in a trapping supply dealer's out building. As I stood there I mentioned to him that the moldy smell of the dirt was REALLY strong, and he told me he couldn't smell it. Some people smell certain odors better (he thought it was a "dirt" smell) than others... but don't worry, the coyotes figure it out quick smile

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Re: storing wax dirt [Re: ] #6384828
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I store mine in 5 gallon buckets in the basement of my cabin... Heated all winter and air conditioned the rest of the year and have not had mold. I could see the problem if just left outside in a shed

Re: storing wax dirt [Re: Kevin Stake] #6384880
11/28/18 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Stake
55 gallon drums here with lids gapped to let it breath. Dry dirt to start with also.


Same here. ^^^

Re: storing wax dirt [Re: coykill] #6384889
11/28/18 10:42 PM
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I dry it, wax it and place it in 5 gallon pails the next year what I have left I use it to cool the next years batch so it won't stick together when cooling, never had a issue did have a old pail that cracked and got water in it that was a gooey white slime mess. Water and wax don't mix that's for sure but it's dryer here in SD, Menards has tight fitting pail lids for $1.25 I buy 10-15 at a time.


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Re: storing wax dirt [Re: coykill] #6384898
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32 gallon trash cans.

Re: storing wax dirt [Re: coykill] #6385013
11/29/18 12:56 AM
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Also I think plastic containers give off plastic smell

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