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Rattling Bucks #6385523
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Has anyone done much rattling for deer and what are your experiences and are you a believer in rattling? Does rattling work this time of year?


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Re: Rattling Bucks [Re: snowy] #6385535
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I truly believe it workes when it's the right time. I know that's a dumb thing to say but I can't explain it any better. I have rattled over and over with no luck then one day I get great responses and that may go on for a day or a week. Some years October here is when it works some years late November. I think it all goes in to if a buck hears you that dont have a doe with him and hasn't been whooped up on real bad by another deer he will put on a good show for you. I haven't had great luck with just rattling and no grunts always seems to work best with some grunts thrown in.

Re: Rattling Bucks [Re: Matt28] #6385562
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Originally Posted by Matt28
I truly believe it workes when it's the right time. I know that's a dumb thing to say but I can't explain it any better. I have rattled over and over with no luck then one day I get great responses and that may go on for a day or a week. Some years October here is when it works some years late November. I think it all goes in to if a buck hears you that dont have a doe with him and hasn't been whooped up on real bad by another deer he will put on a good show for you. I haven't had great luck with just rattling and no grunts always seems to work best with some grunts thrown in.

This and adding scent to add to the mix. 2 different buck pees and doe in estoris.(spelling).
And add the ground noise to seal the deal.
But pressured deer are hard to call anytime.

Re: Rattling Bucks [Re: snowy] #6385563
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That makes a lot of sense. I also think your grunt call is something you need also just from reading and seeing it on tv people use them.


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Re: Rattling Bucks [Re: snowy] #6385567
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Use a grunt tube that is adjustable.
Then you can sound like both buck,with a move of the finger
And a doe can
Not all calls are created equal

Re: Rattling Bucks [Re: snowy] #6385573
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worked the first time I tried it in '73...3 bucks from 3 directions!
the trick is to start low volume and build up
ALSO, works when the rut is NOT in, but not so aggressive, since bucks spar at times
On the ground enables you to make leaf raking (pawing) and hoof stomping noises.
I usually set up a quick blind of fabric or netting to cover movement...leaning against a large tree
I've had them come ripping in and also sneaking in silently.

Does NOT work every time, just whenever they want to check it out.


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Re: Rattling Bucks [Re: snowy] #6385576
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all good advice above. just know that when you do rattle - the animal is expecting to find what he's hearing. be ready to act fast.


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Re: Rattling Bucks [Re: snowy] #6385579
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Great advice. Will does respond and come check out the rattling sounds? I have heard they will at time also.


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Re: Rattling Bucks [Re: snowy] #6385582
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I've had my best luck rattling earlier in the season just as the bucks are starting to ramp-up on the testosterone. Light sparring to mimicking full blown fights. Having said that, I've called in ten deer with a grunt tube for every buck I've had respond to the antlers. I started calling deer twenty-five years ago and I've called in a bunch. Big ones, little ones and everything in between.

Keep in mind when calling that you become the hunted and mature deer tend to go downwind of the noise they're hearing. They want to know what they're walking into. I'm a firm believer there are a lot of guys who call in deer that have no idea a deer responded to their calling. They go downwind and stop, look and listen...and then there's their nose. Every once in a great while you'll meet a buck with a really nasty attitude that makes no effort to hide his presence. Those aren't the norm, not in my experience.

Re: Rattling Bucks [Re: snowy] #6385588
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My favorite call sequence is to imitate a short chase with the breeding sounds and ground sound.
As said you never see them all. I figure for everyone I see, 8-10 I don't see. For to many reason to list.
Remember, each animal is an individual not the same mind set as everyone else
Just like on here.lol

Re: Rattling Bucks [Re: snowy] #6385594
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I've rattled and grunted bucks (story to follow). BUT I've spooked bucks doing both. Run like they are on fire, spooked. I now leave the grunt tube and antlers in the garage.

Buy a doe bleat can. I've called far more bucks with the can and have NEVER spooked a single one. I don't hunt deer without one anymore.

Story: When I was young I rattled in a buck. First shot with the bow was a complete miss. Rattled again and back he comes. I shoot again and he runs out about 20 yards and stops. I figured I'd missed so I rattled him back in, fighting mad, and shoot again. He runs out and tips over. After looking at the blood trails in the snow, I realized the first shot did in fact miss. Second shot went clean through his heart. 3 rd arrow through the liver.
Younger than that I went through all 5 arrows, crawled down, belly crawled to my arrows, retrieved a couple and climbed back up on the tree and shot more. Bad day of shooting but still put one in the freezer and wounded none. Sometimes it doesn't go as planned and you need all your arrows.

Re: Rattling Bucks [Re: snowy] #6385596
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Over the last 15 years have rattled in many, many bucks (and a few does who were curious). When it comes to rattling, I've had deer respond in about every way you can imagine. Walking in, running in, sneaking in, coming in aggressive, circling around, standing off a distance and watching, etc. I have called in more than one deer on many occasions. I think the most I have ever called in at one time was four - three bucks and a doe.

I really started having success when I began using real antlers (as opposed to the plastic ones). The last two years I have used the Knight and Hale Pack Rack (the smaller one) and have really been pleased with it. I was skeptical because it's made of plastic and all but it has really produced for me. I also use the grunt call when I rattle. That seems to help. In fact I have rattled in deer that have hung up out of range but then gave them some grunts without the rattle and that lured them in. So my answer is - Yes. I believe in rattling and I would never be in the woods deer hunting with out the rattling antlers or the pack rack. Hope this helps - Mark

Re: Rattling Bucks [Re: snowy] #6385608
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Good stuff. I'm a deer calling junkie. Sometimes I'll just give a single toot on my grunt tube every half hour or so, other times I'll mix in doe bleats with the grunt tube. You're trying to paint as enticing a picture as you can for the buck you're hoping to call.

One year when my mojo was strong, I was calling in deer every other day I went out with three mature bucks responding to one sequence. One came waltzing in like he owned the place and the other two circled downwind of me and I had no idea they were there until it was too late.

Give them time to respond and keep the faith.

Re: Rattling Bucks [Re: snowy] #6385618
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snowy, I have had the best luck rattling when there is a good number of older deer (bucks) in your area,they know when two bucks are fightin there is a doe or two around..like posco says you have to be able too see what is comeing into your rattling.depends on your area how to set up,want wind in your face and if you can some kind of a natural backing like a river,or ridge.like was said they will at times try to circle you. start out slow,just a little rattling and grunt too if you want every 15 to 20 min do it again,after third time I let it all go and I mean you gotta make it sound like two bucks are tryin to kill each other,stamp the ground break brush grunt for about 5 min then wait ,keep your eyes working.yes you will call in does also plus coyotes wolfs and hopefully your buck.and by the way cut the brow tines off your rattling horns they hurt ya.
good luck


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Re: Rattling Bucks [Re: Posco] #6385620
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Originally Posted by Posco
I've had my best luck rattling earlier in the season just as the bucks are starting to ramp-up on the testosterone. Light sparring to mimicking full blown fights. Having said that, I've called in ten deer with a grunt tube for every buck I've had respond to the antlers. I started calling deer twenty-five years ago and I've called in a bunch. Big ones, little ones and everything in between.

Keep in mind when calling that you become the hunted and mature deer tend to go downwind of the noise they're hearing. They want to know what they're walking into. I'm a firm believer there are a lot of guys who call in deer that have no idea a deer responded to their calling. They go downwind and stop, look and listen...and then there's their nose. Every once in a great while you'll meet a buck with a really nasty attitude that makes no effort to hide his presence. Those aren't the norm, not in my experience.


Agreed. You will not see a lot of the deer responding to your calling unless you are VERY STILL and VERY PATIENT.


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Re: Rattling Bucks [Re: snowy] #6385840
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Interesting thanks for the guidance. It was another one of those years trying t get arrow a whitetail. They just out smart me time and again. We did very good on mule bucks this year but those whitetail are something else to hunt. lol


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I’ve been rattling for about 5 years. Never rattled in a buck yet. Very frustrated with it. I use Knight and Hales rattle pack.
I need to find a set of antlers to rattle with.


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Re: Rattling Bucks [Re: snowy] #6385920
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Some of my rattling devices. The one hooked to the tree is my favorite. A guy named Norm French invented it. It has a spring loaded clapper that makes contact with the paddles inside the trap. Yank on the string and it rattles coming toward you, release the string and the spring draws the clapper back through the paddles making a rattling noise as it passes back through the paddles. It sounds amazingly realistic and I've called deer with it. The idea is to set it up fifty to a hundred yards upwind so when the deer respond, you're downwind of them as they come in. I use heavy monofilament line. I usually dangle it from my stand and yank the cord. Same deal, rattles on its way up and on its way down.


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It works when it works.
Tried MANY times and had dismall response the vast majority.
What people see on t.v. is not what most of us have. That is a decent concentration of older age class buck that are in a controlled ( somewhat) environment.
The best luck I've had has been late Oct- early Nov.
Few places have the age structure and unmolested deer where rattling will work a decent percent of the time.


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^ thanks bucks. I get totally frustrated hunting whitetail my son has done good with them. In my life time I have only taken one whitetail bow hunting, I did kill one 30 plus years ago gun hunting. LOL Maybe next year.


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