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Re: Prayers for our Alaskan members!
[Re: warrior]
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11/30/18 03:24 PM
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Looks like a lot of damage. Tsunami warning has been lifted.
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Re: Prayers for our Alaskan members!
[Re: warrior]
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12/01/18 10:58 AM
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Now Pete there aren't many folks in Florida that do feel anything anyway unless it's sand in there Speedos ha ha just kidding.
I hope everyone's safe and sound up in Alaska !
Allan
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Re: Prayers for our Alaskan members!
[Re: warrior]
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12/03/18 03:05 PM
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No deaths, very few if any real injuries. Some impressive infrastructure damage, and a bit of structural. The seismic building codes that were developed after 64 proved their worth, and altogether we came out pretty well.
Boco couldn't catch a cold. But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
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Re: Prayers for our Alaskan members!
[Re: KenaiKid]
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12/04/18 02:31 AM
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No deaths, very few if any real injuries. Some impressive infrastructure damage, and a bit of structural. The seismic building codes that were developed after 64 proved their worth, and altogether we came out pretty well. So where is Finn? I bet he doesn't believe in building codes. I expect he'd say that building codes oppress an individual's freedom to build however he likes. Jim
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Re: Prayers for our Alaskan members!
[Re: James]
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12/04/18 05:01 AM
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No deaths, very few if any real injuries. Some impressive infrastructure damage, and a bit of structural. The seismic building codes that were developed after 64 proved their worth, and altogether we came out pretty well. So where is Finn? I bet he doesn't believe in building codes. I expect he'd say that building codes oppress an individual's freedom to build however he likes. Jim Haha you’re probably right. I do appreciate that Alaska has no state-wide building requirements. If I’m outside city limits in most boroughs and not financing I can build whatever I want. Like I said though, I also appreciate the research and engineering science that provides standards for building longevity, and I use the code for everything bigger than a doghouse because it’s worth it.
Boco couldn't catch a cold. But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
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Re: Prayers for our Alaskan members!
[Re: warrior]
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12/04/18 05:51 AM
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That's a common misunderstanding. The Alaska building code applies throughout the state. There's just no enforcement outside cities.
You might have a problem if you try to sell a non-code-compliant home.
Jim
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Re: Prayers for our Alaskan members!
[Re: James]
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12/04/18 10:25 AM
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That's a common misunderstanding. The Alaska building code applies throughout the state. There's just no enforcement outside cities.
You might have a problem if you try to sell a non-code-compliant home.
Jim Many states are like that. I know my home state of Alabama actually does require code statewide even though most think otherwise. It that only about half a dozens counties have code inspectors while the rest operate on the honor system.
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Re: Prayers for our Alaskan members!
[Re: warrior]
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12/04/18 12:46 PM
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All my buildings survived. I guess I don't need mandated codes to build stuff that works. Individual freedom is great!
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Prayers for our Alaskan members!
[Re: warrior]
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12/04/18 12:49 PM
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Oh Snap
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Oh Snap
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Dirt, Are you still feeling them,
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Re: Prayers for our Alaskan members!
[Re: warrior]
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12/04/18 01:14 PM
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Oh Snap
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Oh Snap
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Are you feeling any of the 3's
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Re: Prayers for our Alaskan members!
[Re: warrior]
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12/04/18 01:16 PM
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Probably. We are having so many, I'm starting to imagine the small ones; I think.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Prayers for our Alaskan members!
[Re: James]
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12/04/18 03:36 PM
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That's a common misunderstanding. The Alaska building code applies throughout the state. There's just no enforcement outside cities.
You might have a problem if you try to sell a non-code-compliant home.
Jim Not a misunderstanding at all Jim. I’m a contractor. There is absolutely no state legal requirement to build to any code or standard. The reason it’s an issue when selling is that banks don’t want to loan on a sub-standard asset. But even in that case, banks usually just hire a visual inspector who has no idea about the hidden structural elements, and if he passes it the bank usually will. Selling a sub-code dwelling is still possible, either to a cash buyer or “as-is” for a reduced appraisal. Meeting and documenting code compliance makes the selling process much easier (not to mention it’s just a good idea), but again there’s no legal relevance to the state.
Boco couldn't catch a cold. But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
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Re: Prayers for our Alaskan members!
[Re: warrior]
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12/04/18 03:51 PM
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Yup. I don’t dispute the value of the codes, I’m just glad the state stays out of the enforcement and lets the industry handle it. It works pretty well.
Boco couldn't catch a cold. But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
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Re: Prayers for our Alaskan members!
[Re: KenaiKid]
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12/04/18 05:31 PM
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" That's a common misunderstanding. The Alaska building code applies throughout the state. There's just no enforcement outside cities.
You might have a problem if you try to sell a non-code-compliant home.
Jim Not a misunderstanding at all Jim. I’m a contractor. There is absolutely no state legal requirement to build to any code or standard. The reason it’s an issue when selling is that banks don’t want to loan on a sub-standard asset. But even in that case, banks usually just hire a visual inspector who has no idea about the hidden structural elements, and if he passes it the bank usually will. Selling a sub-code dwelling is still possible, either to a cash buyer or “as-is” for a reduced appraisal. Meeting and documenting code compliance makes the selling process much easier (not to mention it’s just a good idea), but again there’s no legal relevance to the state. I am a lawyer who used to advise contractors, and you aren't the first one I've met who had that misimpression. Jim
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Re: Prayers for our Alaskan members!
[Re: KenaiKid]
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12/04/18 05:37 PM
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No deaths, very few if any real injuries. Some impressive infrastructure damage, and a bit of structural. The seismic building codes that were developed after 64 proved their worth, and altogether we came out pretty well. I did masonry work on a new school in Soldotna back in the mid eighties. There was so much steel in the grade beams concrete could barely make its way down through it. All of the walls were poured solid and re-bar placed every four feet, horizontally and vertically. An insane amount of steel went into that building to help it ride out a major earthquake.
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Re: Prayers for our Alaskan members!
[Re: warrior]
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12/04/18 05:50 PM
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Anchorage has stricter building codes than the state generally, particularly as to earthquake protection.
Anchorage also has code enforcement, unlike most rural areas.
Jim
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Re: Prayers for our Alaskan members!
[Re: James]
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12/04/18 06:00 PM
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Anchorage has stricter building codes than the state generally, particularly as to earthquake protection.
Anchorage also has code enforcement, unlike most rural areas.
Jim A lot of small towns don't have the money in the budget to hire a competent code enforcement officer. I used to make it a point to go visit the code enforcement guy/gal whenever I was doing work in a town I hadn't done work in before. Got me off n the right foot with them and some localities can be more stringent with their codes than the state or feds require.
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Re: Prayers for our Alaskan members!
[Re: warrior]
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12/04/18 06:06 PM
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"The International Building Code (I.B.C.), Chapters 1 - 12, 14 - 28, and 30 - 35, and Appendix C (2006 Edition) are adopted by reference to regulate all occupancies and buildings with the following revisions:"
13 AAC 50.020
Jim
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Re: Prayers for our Alaskan members!
[Re: warrior]
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12/04/18 06:15 PM
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Airlines are subject to FAA regulation, so my GUESS (only) is that they might be exempt. Someone would have to scour the ADA to be sure.
Jim
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Re: Prayers for our Alaskan members!
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12/05/18 04:55 AM
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"The International Building Code (I.B.C.), Chapters 1 - 12, 14 - 28, and 30 - 35, and Appendix C (2006 Edition) are adopted by reference to regulate all occupancies and buildings with the following revisions:"
13 AAC 50.020
Jim
Well I’ll be. It actually is on the books! Learn something new every day! I even looked up the statute number and found the whole revision list. Thanks Jim! For practicality’s sake, I’ve always just used the nearest applicable local code, since that gets me the relevant local variables such as frost line, snow and wind loads. Kenai and Soldotna both have their own, which are oddly slightly different, though not really enough to matter.
Boco couldn't catch a cold. But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
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Re: Prayers for our Alaskan members!
[Re: warrior]
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12/05/18 07:41 PM
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Yeah, those 5.0s are scary.
Jim
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