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so was kicking around the idea of selling my 1/2 ton silverado and buying a toyota tacoma. only thing i really pull is a 12 ft trailer i use for my side by side when deer hunting and trapping and a 18 foot jon boat. just wondering if i will regret not having a full size truck

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I went the other way and never regretted it one bit. Not going back either. The Taco was a good little truck at the time but once I stepped up to a Tundra, there is no going back!


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Drove a Tacoma from 1990 (3 different ones) until 2011 . Got a Silverado 1 for the better ride and tons more room. Number 2 gets better gas mileage than a Tacoma. Got another new Silverado in 2015 . Never go back to small truck.....

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I can’t fit in a Toyota....So my 2500 GMC 2015 works for me...pulls the 38 foot camper...21 foot Freighter Canoe ....plows snow ...you know,a real work truck.

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Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6390361
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Originally Posted by trappercosmo
so was kicking around the idea of selling my 1/2 ton silverado and buying a toyota tacoma. only thing i really pull is a 12 ft trailer i use for my side by side when deer hunting and trapping and a 18 foot jon boat. just wondering if i will regret not having a full size truck




You will when you try to haul passengers or looking for a place to put you crap !!!!

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I've bounced back and forth from anything from one to half ton to compact pickups as needs change.

I'm now in my 70's and never thought I'd need more than an 8ft 1/2 ton. Guess what? I'm moving up to a 3/4 ton to haul a dump trailer for full cord wood deliveries.


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Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6390378
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so what type of fuel mileage did you guys see with the tacoma . i was hoping the little truck would be handy when i didnt take the side by side trapping. and a little easier on fuel

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Most full size trucks get better mileage than Tacomas, but I use one to trap out of.

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A full sized truck is about impossible to work out of for trapping from the sides most work has to be done from the tailgate opening. I can't see having a truck that everything is out of reach and jumping up and down all day would suck. A Toyota is not that much smaller (New ones) but it's a little better, I drive my old tank for trapping 95% of the time because of the easy access to the stuff in the bed, has the right tires and posi so it goes in and out of a lot of places.

New Toyota gets good mileage some days and poor mileage other days it pulls my 12 foot trailer no problem with a load of wood, the biggest issue with Toyota is the traction package you want comes on the Off-Road package model and so does EVERYTHING else! LOL


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couldnt agree more on working out of the full size law dog. no matter what i do it seems like the one item i need at the time has slid to the front of the bed and (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) near dead center . seems like the toyota trucks are fairly popular here

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I like my Toyota a lot but the little D 50 is so easy to work out of and that's what I built it for, no luxury just function! LOL


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Its easy to carry a gorilla or similar step stool to reach into a full size bed.


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Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6390506
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I couldn’t go without a full size truck. I drove 3 different f150 before I finally got into what I really wanted.

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loved dakotas,eager to see the new jeep pickup.


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Originally Posted by trappercosmo
so what type of fuel mileage did you guys see with the tacoma . i was hoping the little truck would be handy when i didnt take the side by side trapping. and a little easier on fuel



It's all in how you drive them.

I have had 3 Tacomas. Still have 2 of them.

2003 extended cab got 21-23 miles per gallon with ladder rack and ladder.

2007 gets 23-25 miles per gallon.

2016 gets 20-23 miles per gallon.

All 3 of the above trucks are 4 cylinders. The 03 and 07 are 5 speed standard transmissions. The 16 is an automatic transmission.

I have driven and owned full sized F150's. I never felt comfortable in them after driving Rangers and Tacomas. Always felt like I was taking up my side of the road and half the other side.


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Originally Posted by trappercosmo
so was kicking around the idea of selling my 1/2 ton silverado and buying a toyota tacoma. only thing i really pull is a 12 ft trailer i use for my side by side when deer hunting and trapping and a 18 foot jon boat. just wondering if i will regret not having a full size truck

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It's all in how you use a truck, IMO. I had a Silverado, thought it was great til it started having issues nobody could fix. Decided to try a Tacoma. Got a 5-speed, 6 cylinder, and it gets 20-23mpg. Best the Silverado ever did was 19 on flat ground set on cruise. Normal was 16. I got extended cabs of both trucks, but the Tacoma is definitely smaller. I'm usually by myself, rare to have a passenger, so not an issue for me. Tacoma way easier to access the bed of the truck, and it goes places my Silverado would've sunk like a boat anchor. I wish Chevy or Ford would make a good dependable truck, built to last. You hear about someone who has one that has gotten extraordinary miles on it, but it's the exception, not the rule. With Toyota's, the first comment outta people's mouths, "Last truck you'll ever need to buy, it'll run forever." Had two people question my loyalty to American made. I told them it was a simple choice for me. Asian's buy fur, not Americans, it's only right I should purchase their better goods, if they purchase mine. Besides, an American sold it to me, and it was probably at least partially made or assembled by an American. Not to mention it was about $20,000 cheaper than a replacement for my Silverado.


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Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6390679
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I need a full-size truck for towing and hauling. My current one is a 2008 Tundra. I used it on the trapline for years but it's really too big to be running around on tractor trails and logging roads. So four years ago I bought an old Ram 50 for $1,200.00. It was supposed to be a dedicated trapline truck but I soon started using it to run errands and it became my daily driver when I'm not working.

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As far as buying American, that is just a sad joke anymore. Chrysler took all that bail-out money then sold the company to Fiat, the Italian auto maker. That's right boys, your Dodge Rams are now made by the Italians... Merica! LOL

And my Dodge Ram 50 isn't even a Dodge, it's a Mitsubishi Mighty Max. Back in the eighties Dodge completely misread the auto trends and was getting it's arse kicked in the small truck market due 100% to mismanagement and stupidity. They realized they had to do something quick and had no time to retool and get into the booming market. So they commissioned a bunch of Mighty Maxes from Mitsubishi, put there own badges and emblems on them and called them Rams. LOL.

My Tundra is built right here in America in San Antonio, Texas. Tacomas are built there too. In fact, Toyota has four manufacturing plants in America in Texas, Kentucky, Mississippi and Indiana.


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I've got an 88 mitsu mighty max (2.0L, 2wd). I love it. Gets 25 mpg and I can fit my 10 ft kayak and a few five gallon buckets in it. Goes everywhere, and if I beat it up or scratch it, who cares? I'm trying to convince my wife to let me paint it camo.

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Mine's an 89 4WD with a 2.6L. I do enjoy driving it.

Tman member Law Dog restores D50's all the time. If he sees this I'm sure he'll comment.


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for towing and hauling anything more than couple of kids bikes - you'll want full size IMO


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Originally Posted by Lugnut
I need a full-size truck for towing and hauling. My current one is a 2008 Tundra. I used it on the trapline for years but it's really too big to be running around on tractor trails and logging roads. So four years ago I bought an old Ram 50 for $1,200.00. It was supposed to be a dedicated trapline truck but I soon started using it to run errands and it became my daily driver when I'm not working.

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As far as buying American, that is just a sad joke anymore. Chrysler took all that bail-out money then sold the company to Fiat, the Italian auto maker. That's right boys, your Dodge Rams are now make by the Italians... Merica! LOL

And my Dodge Ram 50 isn't even a Dodge, it's a Mitsubishi Mighty Max. Back in the eighties Dodge completely misread the auto trends and was getting it's arse kicked in the small truck market due 100% to mismanagement and stupidity. They realized they had to do something quick and had no time to retool and get into the booming market. So they commissioned a bunch of Mighty Maxes from Mitsubishi, put there own badges and emblems on them and called them Rams. LOL.

My Tundra is built right here in America in San Antonio, Texas. Tacomas are built there too. In fact, Toyota has four manufacturing plants in America in Texas, Kentucky, Mississippi and Indiana.


Spot on about the whole American made vehicle thing. The Tundra's are indeed built in America, as is the Nissan Titan. Stroll through your local Chevy dealer and look on the window sticker for the assembly point of a new Silverado. Many of them are built in Mexico. Tundra has more American parts in it's make-up than the Silverado or Ram as well.


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went from full size to small Toyota BACK to full size over 35 yrs.
Toyota has 330k miles and still runs great BUT full size needed these days to pull campers and tractors etc

Changing out of wet clothes after a trapping dunking, is mo' beta' for me in a full size than mini truck...prefer to do it with heat running...lol.

It all depends on your needs....get MORE than you think you'll need.


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Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6390708
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I did 3 trucks ago...and went right back to a full size. Full load and better gas mileage , smaller truck doesn't necessarily have better mileage, depends on the engine.


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Full size is 3/4T or bigger with at least an 8 foot cargo area. !/2T is mostly a passenger vehicle and the little trucks can haul just as much cargo if not so many passengers.

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I sure don't miss driving back the lanes the farmers have rutted up with their full size trucks and me being tossed side to side because of the tiny wheel base.
Full size from here on out.


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Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: Lugnut] #6390759
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Mine's an 89 4WD with a 2.6L. I do enjoy driving it.

Tman member Law Dog restores D50's all the time. If he sees this I'm sure he'll comment.




Don't get me started on D50s! LOL I have 3 now and parts enough to build a few more if needed also have a spare engine and trans ready to go if needed just a perfect fit for trapping, step out grab what you need and your in business!


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Ha! Figured you'd show up. Your spidey senses musta been tingling when we started talking D50's! LOL


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If you're looking at the Tacoma so you can get better mileage than a full-size anything, forget it. I've driven Toyotas (and other things; Ford, Chevy, Mitsubishi, Piper, Cessna) for years. Have always liked the mileage, toughness, resale value, etc. Not any more. Currently have a '07 Tacoma with the 6-cylinder, 6-speed manual trans. Only 120K on it, and am very NOT impressed. Poor mileage (and I'm a hyper-miler), poor towing performance, suspension built like a car, not a truck. Hopefully the resale value will hold, as that's about the only thing going for it. I expect it to get 300K if it's a "typical" Toyota, but I'll dread putting in the fuel (at about 15.2 mpg).

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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Ha! Figured you'd show up. Your spidey senses musta been tingling when we started talking D50's! LOL



The new Toyota has been sitting for a month now so that tells a guy how handy the little truck is on the line, if I had to "monkey" all over the bigger truck all day long I'd be flat wore out! LOL


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On a nasty cellar drain hand lob one time. Wife's cousin was helping. Went for stone, he went in with his new Nissan, said 500lbs. I thought it was going to bend it. I went in with 12 yr old heavy half and said put a ton on.
That was his only trip, I hauled all the rest while he bucket carried.
Never again did I hear how he could haul more because of same registration weight and his lower tare weight.
His hauled post holes well, I told him lol..

He did stack miles on that thing until it rotted out. They all do that around here, if you run them in mud and snow.





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Originally Posted by Computer Hater
Originally Posted by trappercosmo
so what type of fuel mileage did you guys see with the tacoma . i was hoping the little truck would be handy when i didnt take the side by side trapping. and a little easier on fuel



It's all in how you drive them.

I have had 3 Tacomas. Still have 2 of them.

2003 extended cab got 21-23 miles per gallon with ladder rack and ladder.

2007 gets 23-25 miles per gallon.

2016 gets 20-23 miles per gallon.

All 3 of the above trucks are 4 cylinders. The 03 and 07 are 5 speed standard transmissions. The 16 is an automatic transmission.

I have driven and owned full sized F150's. I never felt comfortable in them after driving Rangers and Tacomas. Always felt like I was taking up my side of the road and half the other side.




Yes the 4 cyl is great if you are just driving. All I had were 6 cyl 15-18 mpg all I ever got. The 2011 Silverado I had got 21mpg at most highway speeds. The one I have now will get 15 around town and 22-26 on highway depending on how fast I drive. PLUS it has 4door crew cab, and will pull my 21 ft bass boat like nothing is back there. Hook a Tacoma to a 4,000 lb nitro bass boater and watch it struggle......

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Definitely comes in handy for me with wildlife control. I like it, wouldn't downsize unless I had to.

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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
I did 3 trucks ago...and went right back to a full size. Full load and better gas mileage , smaller truck doesn't necessarily have better mileage, depends on the engine.



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First I had an F150- always problems with it 15 mpg

Next I had a 2002 Tundra - not one lick of trouble and sold it @ 240 k miles it got 17 mpg. Hauled a trailer and a canoe on top. Did a lot of trapping and camping out of that truck. I even drove it for two weeks in the rocky's camping in the back of it just fine.

Then I got a 2010 GMC Sierra Last week the oil pressure took a nose dive and the screen on the bottom of the sending unit was clogged, the handle on the inside of the driver's door busted when I pulled on it to get out and the right back tire kept going flat - or the sending unit said it was. I like the ride but this truck has had MANY issues, a spring broke in half while it was setting in my driveway, I plugged a trailer plug into the back bumper and my had went completely through it, both back light and the two lower front lights filled with water and the bulbs burned out, ALL the windows quit working and the dealer told me my wires were ''flaky and old, 4 wheel drive went out in front right after it kept locking the front wheels together when I went around corners, After a trip to the dealer to install a dual battery all the dash lights quit, the remote starter stopped several times, When I change the front brake pads the rotors are warped every time, All four tire pressure sending units went bad, The air conditioner quit twice, It's only 8 years old it gets 17 mpg

I have a 2011 Tundra too. It is the most uncomfortable truck I have ever ridden in. I'm 6'3'' and my head is only 1/2'' from the ceiling. Getting in and out is awkward. It gets 11 to the gallon

I'm looking at the Tacoma also. For the size they are a lot like the old Tundras were -which is nice. Plenty of room.

I have trapped out of all of them and the GMC has a topper with side doors. I don't need that much room since I don't have kids. I like the truck but something breaks or burns up on it every other week and the dealer accuses me of doing things like jumping ditches and overworking the truck. The four wheel drive is ''locking '' the front wheels in again on it's own. It makes we wonder how long before something worse happens to it. The bumper deal was terrible. It looked like I punched a hole in it. GMC and the Dealer have never stood behind any of it and have accused me of abusing it.

Both Toyota's I had have had recalls and they give me a FREE car to drive while the FREE work is being done. Probably trading the GMC in this spring before it explodes.

Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6391144
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i drive 45 miles one way for work and my full size gets 17/18 mile per gallon and drops to 10ish with my trailer on. it seems like the toyota is a little more of a solid truck

Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6391172
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For my plumbing business, I lease a new truck every 3 years, Started out with a Ram 4x4 5.7 Hemi. Big truck with plenty of power but had mechanical issues (lots) that were covered but still caused down time for the business waiting for repairs. Last 3 trucks have been 4x4 Tacoma double cabs. No mechanical issues at all. Toyotas hold their value extremely well. Double cab 4x4's hold their value even better. The dealership pleads with me to bring the truck in before lease end to work another deal on a new one. They then sell my old truck at a profit of course but my new truck ends up costing less per month for the next 3 years! Gas mileage has varied over the 3 models starting out at 18/19 mpg. My latest truck, a 2016, has a different engine design and averages 21/22 mpg. Towing is weak and in that regard I miss a V8! Will tow a 17' boat fine but my enclosed 14' trailer drops mpg to 14 or so! Hope this info helps! I will be trading my current truck in this next fall fall for the latest Tacoma.

Chris


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Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6391189
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MR.....you get a 4x4 v6 Tacoma and you can go on and sell that side x side ....the one I have will go anywhere ..mud ...sand .... high water ....i even climbed a 100 ft loblolly pine tree in it just to see what was at the top ...had to ride the brake a little coming down though


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Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6391193
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I am with Lawdog-for trapping big trucks flat out suck.I switched from a Tundra to a Tacoma years ago and have not looked back.The new Tacoma gets decent mileage and I can reach over the sides and get traps etc-you aren't doing that with the big trucks these days.If you are hauling big stuff-go ahead and I would agree with the bigger trucks for sure.I can haul my 20 ft Lund Predator with no issues at all.Unless you are hauling a lot-big trucks don't make sense to me at all.

Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6391212
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this is exactly why i asked here , alot of different opinons and ways you guys use your trucks

Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6391222
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I don't know how one can trap out of a full size truck the box is so tall. Tacoma all the way.

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There is a noticeable difference in MPG with the Tacoma manual VS Automatic transmissions.

Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6391302
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I trap out of a ford ranger till it gets slick then I use my dodge ram 4x4

Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6391317
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I've had a few small trucks, of these, the early 90's toyota 4x4 pick-up with the 22re was the best and churned through anything. However, I don't think I'd ever go back to a small truck. Though better off-road, the just don't have the payload or towing capabilities that I need/want much of the time.

Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: Lugnut] #6391423
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
I need a full-size truck for towing and hauling. My current one is a 2008 Tundra. I used it on the trapline for years but it's really too big to be running around on tractor trails and logging roads. So four years ago I bought an old Ram 50 for $1,200.00. It was supposed to be a dedicated trapline truck but I soon started using it to run errands and it became my daily driver when I'm not working.

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As far as buying American, that is just a sad joke anymore. Chrysler took all that bail-out money then sold the company to Fiat, the Italian auto maker. That's right boys, your Dodge Rams are now made by the Italians... Merica! LOL

And my Dodge Ram 50 isn't even a Dodge, it's a Mitsubishi Mighty Max. Back in the eighties Dodge completely misread the auto trends and was getting it's arse kicked in the small truck market due 100% to mismanagement and stupidity. They realized they had to do something quick and had no time to retool and get into the booming market. So they commissioned a bunch of Mighty Maxes from Mitsubishi, put there own badges and emblems on them and called them Rams. LOL.

My Tundra is built right here in America in San Antonio, Texas. Tacomas are built there too. In fact, Toyota has four manufacturing plants in America in Texas, Kentucky, Mississippi and Indiana.



I need a small truck for every day trapping and a large truck for hauling. I have been running Toyotas since 1990 and they hold up well. When I was working my career job I was given 3/4 ton Chevy, Dodge, and Fords. Dodge seemed to be the strongest, Chevy the best gas. All did good to around 100 thousand miles then it was time to get rid of them.
Same driver, same type driving and my Toyotas will triple the milage and still go strong.

Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: varmintshooter] #6391449
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I have a 2000 3/4 ton GMC van I use as a tool truck. It's still going strong but PA road salt has taken a toll on it and it's soon time for a new one.

It's got 150,000 some miles on it and has only ever taken two fuel pumps and a distributor. I doubt I'll get that sort of service out of a new GMC, seen and heard too many horror stories about the quality of new GMC's and chevys.

I'll probably take a look at a 3/4 ton Ford work van in 3/4 ton. If only Toyota made a heavy van...


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Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6391507
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I have 3 pickups that I use for different reasons. I have a 2500HD Chevy with a Duramax that mainly gets used for pulling my 36ft, fifth wheel camper. I have a 2wd 3/4 ton Ford that I use for my mowing business. It pulls a 18ft trailer that has a dump box for grass and room to haul the mower also. My third is a Dodge Dakota 4x4 with a 318 engine. This is my daily driver as well as my trapping vehicle. I pull a 12ft trailer with a side by side for checking traps. They are all older, the diesel is a 2006, but they are in good shape. The best part-no payments.

Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6391539
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Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6391576
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The problem of reaching over the side of a full size pickup is easily overcome by using a bedslide. You can even use a topper then to keep your gear dry, out of sight and secure.

Sell the truck and put the bedslide in the new one.


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Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6391637
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I like Chevy Colorado's or their equivalent in Nissan or Toyota. We got a lot of narrow back roads and full size are a pain. My brother broke a mirror because our neighbor didn't get over far enough when he met him on the road.

Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6391658
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If you are going to JUST trap as some pointed out that a small truck was better, than buy you a clunker little truck. But for the other 9 months out of the year AND IF you are using the vehicle on trips the full size is the only way to go. Ride ,comfort , and mileage of a full size will well surpass the small truck as trapping vehicle.

Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6391792
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I ran a 2009 Tacoma sport four door long bed and loved it. Now in a 2017 Tacoma off road four door long bed . Great trucks! Just make sure you fit in it. I’m 6’1” 210 and fit nicely.

Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6391795
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I have both. I got a dakota 4x4 with the 318 and that truck is beast. Put a set of mudders on it and I can go anywhere... til it gets high centered lol. I have had friends want me to prove just what that truck will do, and I think I have scared them a few times. A while back, I wanted a half ton, so I found a 4x4 sierra and I love it. However, the sierra is a lot nicer for my dakota,so I just checked traps with it on the way to the deer blind. I honestly like the little dakota better than the sierra for trapping. Sides arent that high so reaching things is not hard, it is small so it can fit in a lot of tight places, and I dont have to worry about the paint on it lol. Its nice to have one of each though. The full size is great for deer hunting, toting a rifle and getting in and out of, while the dakota is a little tight but it makes up for the places you can go. One thing I have been looking at is one of those little jap mini trucks. I think one of those would be fun, and would make the gas bill a lot cheaper during season.

Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6391902
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went the opposite. Lately went from a Ford Ranger back to a F150. Just more room for my stuff.

Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6391938
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I currently drive a Ram 1500 regular cab 2 wheel drive and the next one is going to be a 2500 diesel 4x4 for sure. And


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Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6391959
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Do they not make the new Tacoma's in regular cab 4x4 anymore?

Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6391966
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Hmmm never seen a Silverado get better mpg then a Tacoma. Unless a diesel maybe. I get 22-25 with my taco and never got above 20 with a Silverado when I owned them. Usually 17-18. I went to
Tacoma and won’t go back much more reliable truck.

Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: DRF] #6392093
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Originally Posted by DRF
Do they not make the new Tacoma's in regular cab 4x4 anymore?



Yep but hard to find! (Access cab)

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Last edited by Law Dog; 12/07/18 12:57 AM.

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sharp looking truck law dog

Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6392251
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That's a regular cab lawdog?

Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6392257
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I had my heart set on a Tacoma. I had been driving a GMC Sierra 1500. I drove several Tacoma's and just couldn't stand the terrible ride. I ended up with a Silverado double cab with a 6'6" box for about $4,000 less. I love the ride, the towing capacity and the gas mileage is about the same, better when towing. Did I mention how much more room there is, both inside and out?


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Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: DRF] #6392306
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Originally Posted by DRF
That's a regular cab lawdog?


Access cab they call it everything else they had was a true 4 door even the local Ford dealer here is about all 4 doors. When I picked it up the salesman thought I might of been looking for a 4 door. LOL


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never go back, just no room in those little trucks.


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Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: MB Coonguy] #6392407
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Originally Posted by MB Coonguy
I am with Lawdog-for trapping big trucks flat out suck.I switched from a Tundra to a Tacoma years ago and have not looked back.The new Tacoma gets decent mileage and I can reach over the sides and get traps etc-you aren't doing that with the big trucks these days.If you are hauling big stuff-go ahead and I would agree with the bigger trucks for sure.I can haul my 20 ft Lund Predator with no issues at all.Unless you are hauling a lot-big trucks don't make sense to me at all.

HINT HINT the tail gate lets down on most full size trucks lol

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My boss bought a Nissan Frontier for my work truck. Based on this one I would stay away from them. 8.6 miles per gallon... on a good day.

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I have always driven full sized chevys and love them. I was going to buy a new one in July but spotted this "retro" one this spring and had to have it. It is like a brand spanking new 1983. [Linked Image]
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Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6392488
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I'v had 3 Tacoma's. First one a 08 with 4 cyl got 25 mpg all the time. Second one 2013 got bad milage 16 mpg both had 4 cyl motors. this one 2015 with the 6 cyl gets 22 mpg all the time, I like the tacoma's. I also have an older Dodge diesel pick up that I bought new as well, I use the Dodge to pull the boat, camp trailer and haul wood

Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: jbyrd63] #6392501
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Originally Posted by MB Coonguy
I am with Lawdog-for trapping big trucks flat out suck.I switched from a Tundra to a Tacoma years ago and have not looked back.The new Tacoma gets decent mileage and I can reach over the sides and get traps etc-you aren't doing that with the big trucks these days.If you are hauling big stuff-go ahead and I would agree with the bigger trucks for sure.I can haul my 20 ft Lund Predator with no issues at all.Unless you are hauling a lot-big trucks don't make sense to me at all.

HINT HINT the tail gate lets down on most full size trucks lol



Hint, hint you can reach ANYTHING from anywhere reaching over the top of the bed with ease no climbing to wear you out! LOL Boom, boom done and on your way.


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wouldn't have anything but a full size truck. get a bedslide and you never have to crawl up on that bed again.

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Walk into a dealer looking for a truck to use as a truck and they look at you strange, more "Sunday" trucks then work trucks on the lots here the majority are 4 door Cowboy Cadillac's!


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Re: how many have made the switch from a full size to [Re: trappercosmo] #6393060
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couldnt agree more law dog its like they forgot what trucks where built for

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