Re: HELP! Tree identification
[Re: Gulo]
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12/06/18 07:27 PM
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Again, many thanks for the help, guys. Once I pick out a few choice pieces and make a knife, I'll try to remember to post a follow-up photo. I'm still leaning toward hickory, but not sure which species precisely. Krispy, you can bet that with the lack of hardwood in this country, it ain't goin' in the woodstove. Ebsurveyor, although the bark looks similar, I suspect that osage would be a bit more orange in the heart/pulp wood. It's relatively heavy wood, even after 60-70 years at 10-15% humidity, so I'm thinking not poplar. As I said earlier, I'm thinking that most of the chunk will be saved as handles for various implements rather than knife scales.
Anyway, many thanks...
Jack
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Re: HELP! Tree identification
[Re: Gulo]
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12/06/18 07:43 PM
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Many thanks guys. After your suggestions (sorry the photo isn't better) I googled several hardwoods for images of the bark. Closest match I can come up with is young shagbark hickory. I made a few scales for knife handles and found it to be hard, but nothing like the mountain mahogany I'm using now. Instead, will probably use it for axe/hatchet/hammer handles. I imagine not a big deal for you guys elsewhere, but finding hardwood in eastern Idaho at over 5,000' elevation is like finding a top-lot elephant pelt.
Again, many thanks...
Jack What specie is the tree referred to as Mountain mahogany? I have heard people refer to our black(sweet) birch as Mountain mahogany. It's pretty hard, but not nearly as hard as our hickories.
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Re: HELP! Tree identification
[Re: Gulo]
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12/06/18 08:14 PM
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gryhkl, Cercocarpus ledifolius is mountain mahogany. After desert ironwood, its the hardest wood in North America. It'll bend or chip half-moons out of a double-bitted axe, dull a chainsaw in seconds, and burn right through the bottom of your wood-stove. Great stuff, as long as you have a hacksaw and plenty of extra blades. Makes hickory look like marshmallows.
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Re: HELP! Tree identification
[Re: Gulo]
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12/06/18 08:42 PM
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Turkey Time. Boy-Howdy! You may have it there. The bark looks pretty close. However, green ash is supposed to grow real fast, so would probably be fairly soft and lightweight. The wood on this chunk is heavy and its been drying for half a century. Could it still be green ash?
Jack
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Re: HELP! Tree identification
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12/06/18 09:04 PM
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gryhkl, Cercocarpus ledifolius is mountain mahogany. After desert ironwood, its the hardest wood in North America. It'll bend or chip half-moons out of a double-bitted axe, dull a chainsaw in seconds, and burn right through the bottom of your wood-stove. Great stuff, as long as you have a hacksaw and plenty of extra blades. Makes hickory look like marshmallows. Thanks, Gulo.
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Re: HELP! Tree identification
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12/06/18 09:16 PM
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Burn a small slice and smell the smoke. You will know if it's a type of hickory.
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Re: HELP! Tree identification
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12/06/18 11:09 PM
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gryhkl, Cercocarpus ledifolius is mountain mahogany. After desert ironwood, its the hardest wood in North America. It'll bend or chip half-moons out of a double-bitted axe, dull a chainsaw in seconds, and burn right through the bottom of your wood-stove. Great stuff, as long as you have a hacksaw and plenty of extra blades. Makes hickory look like marshmallows. I am familiar with mountain mahogany! Western fence lizards, Sceloporus occidentalis) prefer this to all other species !! Specius preferencis !
Mean As Nails
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Re: HELP! Tree identification
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12/06/18 11:18 PM
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I ain't sure what it is but I know it aint a shagbark hickory
IF IDIOTS GREW ON TREES THIS PLACE WOULD BE AN ORCHARD !
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Re: HELP! Tree identification
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12/07/18 11:45 AM
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It is hickory I have cut them by the thousands. Good for handles if not damaged x2 Mountain Mahogany is good handle too, I have a trim hammer that I put one in ~1964 and it is still as new, used broken bottles to shape it.
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