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Re: PA, Antler restrictions [Re: Finster] #6392751
12/07/18 07:15 PM
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In the south central Pa Mounta...
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I’m a meat hunter I hunt primarily heavy pressured public land. In 2010 I killed a nice 4 year old ten point my biggest ever

The next year I killed a 2 1/2 year old 7 point


Then I had a long lapse without killing a deer for 7 years until last year I shot a big gray faced doe in archery season then luckily I shot a 6 point this year the first day. I don’t hunt for trophy’s I hunt what’s legal to eat PERIOD. I do not shoot little fuzzy faced does or button bucks like some do around here I let them walk.


Last edited by grayfox54; 12/08/18 07:30 AM.

I don’t trap because I want to
I trap because I have to
Re: PA, Antler restrictions [Re: Finster] #6392752
12/07/18 07:16 PM
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Well, don’t know why my pics got sideways lol


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I trap because I have to
Re: PA, Antler restrictions [Re: grayfox54] #6392759
12/07/18 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by grayfox54
I’m a meat hunter I hunt primarily heavy pressured public land. In 2010 I killed a nice 4 year old ten point my biggest ever, this one

The next year I killed a 2 1/2 year old 7 point
This one

Then I had a long lapse without killing a deer for 7 years until last year I shot a big gray faced doe in archery season then luckily I shot a 6 point this year the first day. I don’t hunt for trophy’s I hunt what’s legal to eat PERIOD. I do not shoot little fuzzy faced does it button bucks like some do around here I let them walk.



Beautiful bucks. I have had some tag eating years, bow hunting is always a challenge. LOL For me any way. We took a mule buck this year from the ranch that doesn't even make P&Y but is 27" wide. I was very happy with is buck and he has been around for at least 4 years. I had seen him often and really wasn't going to get any better but maybe wider. Shoot what makes you happy.

Last edited by snowy; 12/07/18 07:32 PM.

Give me a fish, I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish, I will eat for a lifetime
Re: PA, Antler restrictions [Re: Finster] #6392767
12/07/18 07:44 PM
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Hippi I've shot 3 buck in the last 10 years. One was a 31/2 but he was an exceptional buck still my biggest. The other two were 41/2 and 61/2 year old. We use tooth wear charts to age, but there are variables to that system also.
As far as public land, I still see deer a lot of deer. The real trick is to hunt where no one else does. The steeper the better. And I average 50 yards an hour. Or less, depending on thickness of underbrush.
The three of us that hunt that lightly pressured property have takes 7 buck in the last 10 years.

Re: PA, Antler restrictions [Re: pcr2] #6392770
12/07/18 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by pcr2
5 to a side statewide is whats needed.

Lol. You stirrin the pot?

Re: PA, Antler restrictions [Re: Finster] #6392778
12/07/18 08:07 PM
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Its easy for you guys that still have a ton of deer to agree with antler restrictions or say there is still too many deer but if you were in a management unit like me you would definitely have a change of heart. The public land here is either state game lands or state forest lands and between the game commission allowing the slaughter of too many doe and antler restrictions over the last fifteen years and the habitat that they both are destroying by either timber cutting or controlled burns you can walk around in what habitat is left and not see a deer all day long. It happens, I've done it.

Old habits and tradition are hard to break and I don't want to abandon the areas that I've hunted since I was twelve years old but I will not have a choice. Should have done this years ago but like I said, old habits and tradition are hard to break.

I've done well on buck around here years ago. My first buck was a spike and since then I have let many smaller buck walk away because I knew I would most likely get another chance at a better animal. But these days this doesn't happen. You might only see one buck and it will most likely be one that doesn't meet the antler restriction requirements. If antler restrictions were working I should be seeing smaller bucks walking all over the place! Not so!

When we could only shoot one doe in the two day season after buck season we had plenty of deer and everyone was getting deer and yes there was always some monsters shot every year. Now with the concurrent seasons allowing more doe to be harvested the deer herd has diminished greatly. Thus, less deer less bigger deer. The game commission is not regulating the herd properly. They are out of touch with what is going on. At least they are in my management unit. They have to realize that one management unit covers a large area and what is good in the southern most area of the unit may not be good for the northern most part of the unit.

They say that lands are bought with hunter fees/licenses so we can always have public lands to use. Funny thing is they are not listening to the voices out there that know what is going on. They are more interested in the insurance company's voice, the hunt club's voice, and the trophy minded voices. I don't sit in a tree stand all day waiting for deer to come by me. I work for them. Hunting pressure is way down in my area the last few years because the few deer that are left are very hard to locate and put down. Hunters these days are lazy...its a fact. So its a situation that feeds on itself. Less deer, less hunters, less success for the remaining hunters out there. I don't see it changing in the near future because the PGC is delusional about the status of the herd and as long as we as devoted hunters keep buying licenses nothing will change. Just fallow the money. Its the bottom line.

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Jim
Re: PA, Antler restrictions [Re: Finster] #6392781
12/07/18 08:16 PM
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Fixed it. They hurt my neck looking at them
Nice bucks grayfox54
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Nice lobster claws on that 10

Re: PA, Antler restrictions [Re: Finster] #6392788
12/07/18 08:25 PM
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How many bucks are you allowed in PA? Here in Tenn we were allowed 3 for a long time but they recently dropped it to 2

Re: PA, Antler restrictions [Re: RM trapper] #6392790
12/07/18 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RM trapper
How many bucks are you allowed in PA? Here in Tenn we were allowed 3 for a long time but they recently dropped it to 2

One buck a season RM

Re: PA, Antler restrictions [Re: Finster] #6392791
12/07/18 08:26 PM
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Re: PA, Antler restrictions [Re: yote65Ga] #6392795
12/07/18 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by grey55
Its easy for you guys that still have a ton of deer to agree with antler restrictions or say there is still too many deer but if you were in a management unit like me you would definitely have a change of heart. The public land here is either state game lands or state forest lands and between the game commission allowing the slaughter of too many doe and antler restrictions over the last fifteen years and the habitat that they both are destroying by either timber cutting or controlled burns you can walk around in what habitat is left and not see a deer all day long. It happens, I've done it.

Old habits and tradition are hard to break and I don't want to abandon the areas that I've hunted since I was twelve years old but I will not have a choice. Should have done this years ago but like I said, old habits and tradition are hard to break.

I've done well on buck around here years ago. My first buck was a spike and since then I have let many smaller buck walk away because I knew I would most likely get another chance at a better animal. But these days this doesn't happen. You might only see one buck and it will most likely be one that doesn't meet the antler restriction requirements. If antler restrictions were working I should be seeing smaller bucks walking all over the place! Not so!

When we could only shoot one doe in the two day season after buck season we had plenty of deer and everyone was getting deer and yes there was always some monsters shot every year. Now with the concurrent seasons allowing more doe to be harvested the deer herd has diminished greatly. Thus, less deer less bigger deer. The game commission is not regulating the herd properly. They are out of touch with what is going on. At least they are in my management unit. They have to realize that one management unit covers a large area and what is good in the southern most area of the unit may not be good for the northern most part of the unit.

They say that lands are bought with hunter fees/licenses so we can always have public lands to use. Funny thing is they are not listening to the voices out there that know what is going on. They are more interested in the insurance company's voice, the hunt club's voice, and the trophy minded voices. I don't sit in a tree stand all day waiting for deer to come by me. I work for them. Hunting pressure is way down in my area the last few years because the few deer that are left are very hard to locate and put down. Hunters these days are lazy...its a fact. So its a situation that feeds on itself. Less deer, less hunters, less success for the remaining hunters out there. I don't see it changing in the near future because the PGC is delusional about the status of the herd and as long as we as devoted hunters keep buying licenses nothing will change. Just fallow the money. Its the bottom line.




Yes the people running the deer program in Ky have walls lined with degrees from fancy colleges , but don't have a clue about the deer herd. They base the herd on the number harvested !!!! So to say we have more deer they increased the hunting season by 6 days in 1/2 the state !!!

Re: PA, Antler restrictions [Re: Finster] #6392797
12/07/18 08:36 PM
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I thought the original question was if we like or disliked the PA antler restrictions. Can't compare KY to PA! Maybe your deer program is run properly, ours is not.


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Re: PA, Antler restrictions [Re: grayfox54] #6392800
12/07/18 08:41 PM
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Nice bucks grayfox54, I like your wingbone call too.


Eh...wot?

Re: PA, Antler restrictions [Re: Lugnut] #6392825
12/07/18 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Nice bucks grayfox54, I like your wingbone call too.


Thanks that’s the first one I ever made

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Re: PA, Antler restrictions [Re: Finster] #6392835
12/07/18 09:04 PM
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If people would get out of their tree stands and quit worrying about someone else shooting "their buck" people would see way more deer and the big bucks.


don't worry over the smart ones. catch the dumb ones, they pay the same.

i can do it because i dont know that i cant.

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Re: PA, Antler restrictions [Re: jeremy brua] #6392836
12/07/18 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jeremy brua
If people would get out of their tree stands and quit worrying about someone else shooting "their buck" people would see way more deer and the big bucks.


I agree.


Jim
Re: PA, Antler restrictions [Re: yote65Ga] #6392886
12/07/18 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by grey55
I thought the original question was if we like or disliked the PA antler restrictions. Can't compare KY to PA! Maybe your deer program is run properly, ours is not.


LOL think I was meaning that they don't know what they are doing here just like you say your F&W D is doing there. ??? OH well some people want to argue just to make their own head hurt. . As to comparing why not. ? Deer are deer. They eat , poop , make babies, then get eaten.........

Re: PA, Antler restrictions [Re: Finster] #6392917
12/07/18 10:33 PM
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Guys we pushed the last two days Thursday all we did was bump bucks and we were looking for doe seen one.today we bumped 9 from one thicket killed 2 next drive 4 up no shots next spot nothing then moved to the nothing side 2 bucks up 20 yd self defense shot small 7 pt. And yes our antler restitution suck

Re: PA, Antler restrictions [Re: Finster] #6392920
12/07/18 10:34 PM
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jbyrd63...I apologize. Misunderstood your post. Sorry. This is a sore subject with me as you can tell. I should have never got involved in it. I remember when we had good times here deer hunting. Now I get more frustrated than anything else. Again, didn't mean to argue so strongly.


Jim
Re: PA, Antler restrictions [Re: Finster] #6392938
12/07/18 10:50 PM
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There are LOTS of people that only get a few years a day to hunt.
They may not have the time to scout. They may not have private , managed land to hunt.
Forcing them to count points ain't right.
Besides that, I've seen yearings with small 5 x5 racks and some. 4.5 year olds with 20+,6 pt racks.
Let the people shoot what THEY want!

Most desire a huge buck, few will achieve it. I hate watching t.v. shows where it shows a dad telling akid to " hold off" for a bigger one.
What if someone makes a mitake and shoots one they thought made he grade but a " point" shy. Now what?

I've bowhunted for 41 years and have had 100, s of bucks at under 30 yards and most of the time I can't tell Howe many points they have.


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