Re: HELP! Tree identification
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gryhkl, Cercocarpus ledifolius is mountain mahogany. After desert ironwood, its the hardest wood in North America. It'll bend or chip half-moons out of a double-bitted axe, dull a chainsaw in seconds, and burn right through the bottom of your wood-stove. Great stuff, as long as you have a hacksaw and plenty of extra blades. Makes hickory look like marshmallows. I'll take 10 cords postpaid ! I'll start mailing you some, but all I have are some old one cent stamps, so you will pay the remainer? Oh wait! Canada post is still back-logged from their strike so it may take awhile, I have a 3 foot diameter log in my backyard to mill soon.
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Re: HELP! Tree identification
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12/07/18 08:50 PM
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I don't think you are the first guy to get a great piece of ash in a chicken coop. Moosetrot Thanks to all for the valued input. However, nobody made me squirt half my evening toddie out my nose like Moosetrot. Still laughing, man! jackrock. That little piece of hickory was sectioned on my shop bandsaw. WoodMizer is pickled and put away for the winter. M.Magis. At this point, I'm still going with young shagbark hickory. I believe you're right after looking through several books and spending a bit of time on the internet. Built a book of scales with it, and built up a knife today from it. Not too impressive on the curlicues and color of the wood, but plenty hard. Will try to finish the knife and post a picture tomorrow. Swole. I actually have that book and went through it. Still coming up with shagbark hickory. Thanks for the reminder. Once again, guys, much appreciate the feedback and setting me on the right course. I really like playing with different types of hardwood.
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Re: HELP! Tree identification
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https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=lysLXKXNKubojwSCz6g4&q=young+shagbark+hickory+tree&oq=young+shagbark+hickory&gs_l=img.1.1.0j0i24.51541.53082..55657...0.0..0.279.607.5j0j1......1....1..gws-wiz-img.......0i7i30.NHeN8-iAC_8#imgrc=8suV-qbUrddtMM: As mentioned before, the tree is smooth at its start but it sheds the bark to get bigger. I have some here and at 6" dia. they already show the scales. Paste the address in a search box to find lots o hickories.
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Re: HELP! Tree identification
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12/09/18 12:27 PM
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I ain't no expert, but I have been doing a bit of research to try to identify all the tree service wood that I get for free. For what it is worth, these are my observations:
The bark pattern and color are consistent with hickory.
The wood grain is consistent with hickory.
All hickory is supposed to have a five sided or star shaped pith section running through the middle. That, I don't see in the photo, I see some the right color, but, not the right shape. Check your cross sections to verify.
Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.
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Re: HELP! Tree identification
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12/09/18 02:25 PM
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Looks like yellow bud hickory to me! What I typically Burn with, lots of hands on experience with that type of Wood. I would about put money on it
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Re: HELP! Tree identification
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12/09/18 04:02 PM
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Okay. Got a skinner (not a pelter) made from the hickory. In the photo, bottom is a knife with scales from Mountain Mahogany. Middle knife is scales from the hickory that is pictured at the top of this thread. Top one is American Black Walnut. The hickory and the walnut seemed to be about the same hardness. The mountain mahogany is much harder than either of the others. Jack
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Re: HELP! Tree identification
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Thanks for the heads-up Moosetrot. I've been reasonably good about putting on a cheapo dusk mask. Maybe look into something a bit better? Working around my sawmill periodically I've found that I get into sneezing fits with lodgepole pine dust. Seems I've developed an allergy to that over the years.
Thanks...
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Re: HELP! Tree identification
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12/10/18 08:12 AM
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gryhkl. Yes, I'll go with that. The hickory is quite a bit harder than the walnut. However, both are akin to warm butter in comparison to the mountain mahogany. Trying some 150-year-old apple now, and am surprised at how soft it is in comparison. Beautiful colors, but perhaps too soft for this application.
NE Wildlife. Thanks. Been a fun diversion for a couple of weeks.
T-Rex. Yes. Thank you. Looking in cross-section, the star-shaped pith segment is obvious. I'd not seen that identification hint anywhere else. Thanks.
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Re: HELP! Tree identification
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Sick-a-more dust gives me the most fits.
I brought in two loads of firewood that looks just like that. The tree was not small or young. We call it smooth bark hickory. But I know nuttink lol.
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Re: HELP! Tree identification
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gryhkl. I've never seen mountain mahogany commercially available. The problem I'm having is that it is riddled with bug galleries, and a real pain to find sections big enough for knife scales that don't have bug holes. Seems that the root wads, however, have the best color and are largely bug gallery-free. 6-inch diameter is about as big as it gets in my country, but I've heard of monster-sized trees in northern California in the Sierra's. What are you looking to do with it?
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