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Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill #6397259
12/13/18 02:16 AM
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Buried in the Farm Bill, which passed yesterday, is something that disallows debate in congress on the President's authority to continue to aid and abed in the slaughter innocent people in the country of Yemen. Not only is this amoral, it goes against our founding fathers' intent on the separation of power. Congress and congress alone declares wars. What a shameful thing for republican congressional leaders to do. Paul 'Widowpeak' Ryan should be tarred and feathered, the chicken hawk twit.

https://www.conservativereview.com/...ick-to-avoid-debate-on-yemen-resolution/

Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6397260
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Here is a recent opinion piece by Andrew Napalitano concerning how congress has pizzed away it's power to declare war and why these powers need to be jealously gaurded. He used the example of when Cheeto launched a bunch of cruise missiles into Syria without a declaration of war by congress. The whole situation makes me mad, as the first step to winning a war is declaring that we are in one in the first place. I now firmly believe that the United States has no intention or interest in winning 'the war on terror'. It is meant to be continuous. Through both republican and demorat leadership for the last 17 years we have been in constant foreign conflict that has cost many lives and too much money.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/jud...otten-that-only-congress-can-declare-war

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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6397262
12/13/18 02:31 AM
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I think you mean IMMORAL


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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6397288
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And ABET
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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6397290
12/13/18 06:35 AM
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So what.









Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6397316
12/13/18 07:37 AM
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The President has always been able to dispatch the United States Marine Corps to conflict without congressional approval , and I think since about 2013 that went to all branches of Military


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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6397318
12/13/18 07:39 AM
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Finn,

your post re: the war on terror shows an embarrassing misunderstanding of the nature and extent of the threat.

Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6397320
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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6397321
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NOT buried in the farm bill is a much bigger issue - the continued subsidies we have to cough up for those that don't need it.

Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6397322
12/13/18 07:51 AM
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War is when the goal is to completely destroy a country. The survivors are starving and have reached a point where they have no will to fight anymore.

When war is not declared, when a third world cesspool of a country is not defeated in going on two decades, what you have is people of no morals sucking up tax dollars with no regard for people being harmed. Their kids don't go, their families don't live in the country the "war" is being waged in, and they get richer.

If we truly were waging a war on terror , on 9/12 there would not have been a Mecca. On 9/13 Riyadh would have existed only in photo's. We are like little hungry baby birds. Swallowing whatever garbage is shoved into our mouths.


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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6397326
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What most people don't know is food stamps & most welfare comes out of the Agriculture budget. John Q. Farmer sees a very small part of The Farm Bill.


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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6397354
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^^^ This^^ cut out the lazy, worthless and blood suckers leaving only the truly needy and we saved a ton!

I know this shall never come to pass, we have lost our moral backbone.

Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6397372
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The only way to cut out lazy bloodsuckers is to cut out all welfare including all buisness subsidies . The truly needy can be cared for by the truly private charities


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: danny clifton] #6397378
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
The only way to cut out lazy bloodsuckers is to cut out all welfare including all buisness subsidies . The truly needy can be cared for by the truly private charities


This exactly. Charity comes from the heart. It's not charity to raise my taxes and forcibly take my money.

Congress has long given up it's war powers, along with many other powers. Constant war is good for warmongers, and it's easy when we don't value human life, even though we claim to be pro-life.

Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: danny clifton] #6397387
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
The only way to cut out lazy bloodsuckers is to cut out all welfare including all buisness subsidies . The truly needy can be cared for by the truly private charities



This^^^^^^^^^^. Good post Danny! No one ever seems to want to do the right thing.


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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6397437
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The welfare state runs so deep its tentacles will be all but impossible to remove short of a monetary collapse.

This action of adding a totally unrelated bill to another is the swamp at its finest. Too bad our fine Senators from MN couldn't have gotten the wolf language in it, at least it could be construed as agriculturally related.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6397443
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Great point Steven !!


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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: white marlin] #6397451
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Finn,

your post re: the war on terror shows an embarrassing misunderstanding of the nature and extent of the threat.

If you are more enlightened than me concerning the threats we face, why don't you share with us the extent? You sound just like the government; "Oh, we are under severe threat but the details are confidential. Take our word for it."

Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6397457
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The words " you have to pass it to see whats in it " come to mind ...... usually that is the procedure with a stool sample. But then again, those folks are full of sh .... so it makes sense.


Let's go Brandon

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Re: Permission to kill Yemeni kids hidden n Farm Bill [Re: FlyinFinn] #6397490
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Are large corporate farms needy? Are milk subsidies the reason there is an overproduction of milk? Are tariffs the reason for a 12 billion compensation to farmers? There are a lot of tentacles reaching out on the farm bill monster. The farm bill is a welfare program for a lot of people but it does keep us in a steady supply of cheap food. That's how I make it acceptable in my pea brain.

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